What Happens When We Die?

[One4Truth]

I just got to thinking, what exactly happens to us after we die? I don't mean our bodies. What I mean is, what happens to our "soul" after we die? Do you think it goes to Heaven or Hell? Do you think it gets reincarnated until we achieve Nirvana? Or do you think nothing happens? Or something else? Please put what you think below and possibly an explanation if you feel motivated enough to do so. Thank you!

May I ask the reason behind the question? I ask in view of you sharing "i just got to thinking".

 

[One4Truth]

If you are looking to the Bible for a straight and clear answer - the answer can be found at Gen 3:19

 

[Phantasman]

The fire in which you made mention of,
Is God for our God is a consuming fire.
Hebrews 12:29.

That is right, The celestial authority has the authority over the Terrestrial Priests have been shown that they are merely men as easily attached to evil as any man, and to device a system of do's and don't on where to seek spiritual truth.

Yes that's easily understood.seeing the Celestial man which is from above is the authority from above.
The Terrestrial man which is here blow, which is merely a man which is easily attached to evil. This is easily to understand.
Yes the Spirit can not burn, but everything that has sin and evil in it shall burn.
You made mention of death, that from the beginning the creator God, has used death as a stick, Fear death.

I'm just curious, do you know or have any idea who death is ?
You speak of death, but didn't explain exactly who death is.

In the book of Hebrews 2:14, you will find the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he ( Christ ) also himself likewise took part of the same, that through death
he ( Christ ) might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil"

Seeing here that another name for Satan is death.
You see as I have Christ Jesus, who is death ( Satan ) that I should fear.

I don't follow nor believe the book of Hebrews. It is not authoritative and is the only NT book glorifying the priest (some 22 times). It is a book written by someone sympathetic to emerging catholocism.

Death isn't anyone.

Light and Darkness, life and death, right and left, are brothers of one another. They are inseparable. Because of this neither are the good good, nor evil evil, nor is life life, nor death death. For this reason each one will dissolve into its earliest origin. But those who are exalted above the world are indissoluble, eternal.- Gospel of Philip

Words confuse. We know this by the "angel of light" remark. And Jesus teaching us to die first to achieve life.

Sin is nothing more than ignorance of love. Every sin is a result of this ignorance. It's why Jesus said we need to do two things, both of love. This fulfills the law, as he did.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I don’t know if I understand you correctly, but I appreciate your kind reply.
(You know, I do consider you a cousin.)

Aw. You should hear my mother and I squeese out, I love you. She didnt hear it in her childhood so I didnt growing up. We do in spirit.

*cough* thank you for the compliment. Im getting there.

What you said in the previous post, that ‘we begin life at conception ‘.... yes, that is the spirit we have....the life-force that keeps us going. It has no personality to it. You could liken it somewhat to electricity, that keeps a stereo playing. But when wear and tear to the stereo gets too bad, it malfunctions...then the electricity ain’t gonna work no more on it. So, too, with our imperfect bodies. It’s not an ideal analogy, but the concept can be

Other than seeing ourselves imperfect, I never agreed to that view, I like your analogy....the electricity. The book Im reading uses the term life-force. Once you make it into a creator, give dictations, and love, with a book of its own, you lost me. Ha.

(You mention the “creativity in us”; I bet you are creative, aren’t you? I get that impression. Are you a painter?)

I write poetry and do some painting and piano playing. I started doing visual arts again collaging, writing, coloring, etc. The life force or breathe runs through me as if my art has a mind of its own. Most likely why I have long posts too. Hm.

Anyway, I’m going to create a thread on the Bible’s view of the Resurrection.

Sounds interesting. Life force with no personality that reserects and gives love?

Think Im missing something?

(Grief, I’ve promised (to others) three threads now, on three different topics! I need to get to it!)

Haha. Have fun!

Edit.

 

[Phantasman]

First you have to understand that God loves those who loves him.

I'd pray about that one if I were you.

Luke:
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

John says: For God so loved the world

I would just admit mistake if I were you. Not even trying to make that statement work.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I don't follow nor believe the book of Hebrews. It is not authoritative and is the only NT book glorifying the priest (some 22 times). It is a book written by someone sympathetic to emerging catholocism.

Death isn't anyone.

Light and Darkness, life and death, right and left, are brothers of one another. They are inseparable. Because of this neither are the good good, nor evil evil, nor is life life, nor death death. For this reason each one will dissolve into its earliest origin. But those who are exalted above the world are indissoluble, eternal.- Gospel of Philip

Words confuse. We know this by the "angel of light" remark. And Jesus teaching us to die first to achieve life.

Sin is nothing more than ignorance of love. Every sin is a result of this ignorance. It's why Jesus said we need to do two things, both of love. This fulfills the law, as he did.

The book of Hebrews is not glorifying Priests, it's glorifying Christ, for Christ is our high Priest

This is why in the book of Hebrews, seeing that there was a change in the law of sacrifices, that the blood of goats and the blood of lambs could not do to take away sin, That by the blood of Christ did do. Since there was a change in the law, then there be a change in the Priesthood, That Christ has become the mediator between God and men our high Priest.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I'd pray about that one if I were you.

Luke:
32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

John says: For God so loved the world

I would just admit mistake if I were you. Not even trying to make that statement work.

First of all, Christ Jesus was talking to those of Israel.

Ok, so how do you love your enemies ?

Yes John does say, but you didn't finish the Verse, here's the Verse ---"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

Notice ( whosoever believeth in him) now here's a question, How does the atheists fit into that, Seeing atheists do not believe in God or Christ Jesus should not perish ?

 

[blü 2]

The living are those, who believes in Christ Jesus and God, They are what is called in the bible, scriptures, The Spiritual living.

The dead are those, Who do not believe in Christ Jesus or God, that they have no awareness of Christ Jesus or God.

But Yahweh, who doesn't exist before c. 1500 BCE, is the tribal god of the Jews, with whom he has a special deal ('Covenant'); and Jesus doesn't exist until, say, decades 2 and 3 of the first century CE, and there are still parts of the world who have never heard of either of them.

So the requirement that you need to believe in them when you die (given that such a requirement exists, and given it's a good idea) seems to be extremely arbitrary and unfair, and to have been very grossly mismanaged forever, and at the bare minimum for the last two millennia.

 

[anonymous9887]

I just got to thinking, what exactly happens to us after we die? I don't mean our bodies. What I mean is, what happens to our "soul" after we die? Do you think it goes to Heaven or Hell? Do you think it gets reincarnated until we achieve Nirvana? Or do you think nothing happens? Or something else? Please put what you think below and possibly an explanation if you feel motivated enough to do so. Thank you!

1. Just about every religion teaches the immortality of the soul. That the soul either will go to a place of peaceful conditions or eternal torment.
2. Now what we would have to do next is determine which sacred text are true or false because not all can be true if they contradict one another. I have a criteria for this. A book from god should contain
- the best moral standards and way of living
- scientific facts confirmed by proved science
- fulfilled Prophecy
- world wide distribution
- or some type of information that without a doubt required divine intervention

3. If we are basing ourselves off the scriptures then we plainly cease to exist, our soul dies period but we have a chance at a resurrection scriptural references
- Ezekiel 18:4
- Psalm 146:4
- Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10
- John 11:11-14
1 Corinthians 15:6
1 Corinthians 15:51-52

It makes more sense that god would not send someone into eternal suffering. If we would not do that to our own children what would make us think that god would do such a thing.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

What you think, God is going to let sin and evil into his kingdom.

I agree, it won’t come up a second time. Although after Christ’s Millennial reign, there will be wickedness, a lot apparently (Revelation 20:7-9), But it won’t have any lasting effect.

You and I may disagree on some of the details, but we both want God’s rule, don’t we? Can you imagine seeing Isaiah 11:6-9 come to fruition?! Awesome!

 

[Faithofchristian]

1. Just about every religion teaches the immortality of the soul. That the soul either will go to a place of peaceful conditions or eternal torment.
2. Now what we would have to do next is determine which sacred text are true or false because not all can be true if they contradict one another. I have a criteria for this. A book from god should contain
- the best moral standards and way of living
- scientific facts confirmed by proved science
- fulfilled Prophecy
- world wide distribution
- or some type of information that without a doubt required divine intervention

3. If we are basing ourselves off the scriptures then we plainly cease to exist, our soul dies period but we have a chance at a resurrection scriptural references
- Ezekiel 18:4
- Psalm 146:4
- Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10
- John 11:11-14
1 Corinthians 15:6
1 Corinthians 15:51-52

It makes more sense that god would not send someone into eternal suffering. If we would not do that to our own children what would make us think that god would do such a thing.

If i may say, that all depends who's children you are.
The children of God or the children of Satan.
Those who's names are not written in Christ Jesus book of Life, will be cast into the lake of fire, Revelation 20:15

 

[Faithofchristian]

I agree, it won’t come up a second time. Although after Christ’s Millennial reign, there will be wickedness, a lot apparently (Revelation 20:7-9), But it won’t have any lasting effect.

You and I may disagree on some of the details, but we both want God’s rule, don’t we? Can you imagine seeing Isaiah 11:6-9 come to fruition?! Awesome!

Yes, read Revelation 20:15, Those who's names are not written in Christ Jesus book of Life, shall be cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I don't follow nor believe the book of Hebrews. It is not authoritative and is the only NT book glorifying the priest (some 22 times). It is a book written by someone sympathetic to emerging catholocism.

Death isn't anyone.

Light and Darkness, life and death, right and left, are brothers of one another. They are inseparable. Because of this neither are the good good, nor evil evil, nor is life life, nor death death. For this reason each one will dissolve into its earliest origin. But those who are exalted above the world are indissoluble, eternal.- Gospel of Philip

Words confuse. We know this by the "angel of light" remark. And Jesus teaching us to die first to achieve life.

Sin is nothing more than ignorance of love. Every sin is a result of this ignorance. It's why Jesus said we need to do two things, both of love. This fulfills the law, as he did.

There is a difference between Light and Darkness.

Light and Darkness are not brothers to one another.

Light represents God.
Darkness represents Satan.

God is of the day
Satan is of the night

So you have the children of the Light, being God's children.

you have the children of the night, being Satan's children.

 

[Aupmanyav]

We live in a state of not-knowing. No destination-no heaven, no reoncarnation, no moska, no afterlife; just this life.

Yeah, just this life, just one life. Too short to live in fear. So people should abandon fear and live it to the full in the way it suits them, not transgressing social rule (dharma). Because if they do so, it may hamper there life style. For example a Chief Minister of an Indian state (age 70 years) is now languishing in jail for what he did years ago.

 

[anonymous9887]

If i may say, that all depends who's children you are.
The children of God or the children of Satan.
Those who's names are not written in Christ Jesus book of Life, will be cast into the lake of fire, Revelation 20:15

What I am talking about is eternal suffering. yes people will be thrown in a symbolic lake of fire to be completely destroyed not eternal suffering

 

[LAGoff]

Good news! If you follow the Old Testament you don't have to concern yourself with that because it is silent on the subject of the disposition of our souls in an afterlife. To life! (Le'chayim!), not death.

 

[Phantasman]

The book of Hebrews is not glorifying Priests, it's glorifying Christ, for Christ is our high Priest

This is why in the book of Hebrews, seeing that there was a change in the law of sacrifices, that the blood of goats and the blood of lambs could not do to take away sin, That by the blood of Christ did do. Since there was a change in the law, then there be a change in the Priesthood, That Christ has become the mediator between God and men our high Priest.

Well, that IS the orthodox system of belief. Along with the idea of trinity. There is no law of sacrifice. And you need to reread Hebrews if you cannot see the priests involvement.

Just some of the verses in Hebrews:

For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

And having an high priest over the house of God;

For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.


Christ isn't a priest. Nor should high priests compare themselves to him. Every Gospel and Pauls letters have the enemy of their teachings as the "high priest(s)". The veil was a door for high priests. Jesus destroyed it, and priests were no longer needed.

Priests concocted the Bible books. Surely, Hebrews was written by a priest or for the priests.

Hebrews has no gospel message that I would follow, though it may "appear" to sound right.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The living are those, who believes in Christ Jesus and God, They are what is called in the bible, scriptures, The Spiritual living.

Actually those who live in the 1st Century are dead. We live in 21st Century and are kicking alive.

 

[Mock Turtle]

Well you just proved my point again. Yeah you sure are acting like a pleasant person.

Maybe you need to refine what a pleasant person is ?

I must apologise, it seems a certain little monkey was standing on the shift key. Shouting is very rude, and not something I normally do or ever need to do. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. Half-rations for you, little imp!

PS. Still didn't answer my question as to when you started believing or how this occurred.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I just got to thinking, what exactly happens to us after we die? I don't mean our bodies. What I mean is, what happens to our "soul" after we die? Do you think it goes to Heaven or Hell? Do you think it gets reincarnated until we achieve Nirvana? Or do you think nothing happens? Or something else? Please put what you think below and possibly an explanation if you feel motivated enough to do so. Thank you!

I don't consider reincarnation a non-starter. Heaven and Hell are just both THE AFTERLIFE, just different skins.

And if it does exist, our consciousnesses are a part of its programming.

If rocks can record the fluctuations of the magnetic field, I don't see why the universe can't somehow store a record of us somewhere.