What Happens When You Die?

[Runewolf1973]

After you die....that's the question !
You won't care about Brahman or maya or any mytholigical set of beliefs,
YOU WILL BE DEAD.....ALL THOSE SUPPOSITIONS WILL BE OVER...YOU WILL BE DEAD !
There's only one real question...have you been good or bad...what memories will you leave behind.
There are other mytholigies...heaven, hell, pergutory(sic), burial, or burning.
Of course the "spirit", gnosis, leaves the body, or I'm told that.
You all can believe all of that crap if want to, but you'll be just memories to someone else.
Said it before...said it again...memories.
~
'mud

Continual interaction.

 

[Thief]

Like I said, there is no right or wrong way so there is no winning or losing.

Whatever floats your boat or whatever works for you at this time, go with it.

Different strokes for different folks.

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Your post here indicates you DO believe in lines drawn.

One stroke wins.....the other loses.

 

[Runewolf1973]

Your post here indicates you DO believe in lines drawn.

One stroke wins.....the other loses.

Did you not get the point? I DON'T CARE one way or another. Do as thou wilt.

 

[atanu]

Forget the words. Who cares? There is a truth beyond words...beyond Brahman or Maya...beyond conception.

I care as a Hindu.

"The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao."
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You just spoke about it.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

I believe that when you die it won't be an eternity of darkness like some Christians like to believe. I'm more into the whole reincarnation thing. I actually think it would be impossible to not have some form of consciousness. But even if I'm correct, the probability is that you'd come back as an insect, which would be horrible. Or, assuming that they're cconscious, you could become a piece of bacteria on another planet or bacteria in someone's body. As long as they are reasonably hot I won't complain ;^).

 

[Runewolf1973]

I care as a Hindu.



You just spoke about it.

Your apparent unwillingness to accept other ways, paths, or truths is not the mark of a true Hindu.

 

[Thief]

Your apparent unwillingness to accept other ways, paths, or truths is not the mark of a true Hindu.

If Hindus are required to accept other ways, paths, or truths.....
how then to retain those qualities of Hindu?
(no line drawn)

And then your previous post indicates you Do have a line drawn.

'.....don't care.....do as thou wilt.....'

 

[Runewolf1973]

I believe that when you die it won't be an eternity of darkness like some Christians like to believe. I'm more into the whole reincarnation thing. I actually think it would be impossible to not have some form of consciousness. But even if I'm correct, the probability is that you'd come back as an insect, which would be horrible. Or, assuming that they're cconscious, you could become a piece of bacteria on another planet or bacteria in someone's body. As long as they are reasonably hot I won't complain ;^).

In a way, that ability to interact can be seen as a form of consciousness.To interact with something is to be aware of something, so I agree with you. There cannot be interaction without some form of awareness and there cannot be awareness without interaction. It is not on the same level of complexity as the consciousness we experience every day, rather it is on a more fundamental interaction level. I don't see anything horrible about being an insect, or a plant, or even a rock for that matter, but that's just me.

The reason why I don't believe we reincarnate into lesser evolved creatures though is because this universe is constantly expanding and I believe our consciousness (interactions) continually expand along with it.

 

[Thief]

In a way, that ability to interact can be seen as a form of consciousness.To interact with something is to be aware of something, so I agree with you. There cannot be interaction without some form of awareness and there cannot be awareness without interaction. It is not on the same level of complexity as the consciousness we experience every day, rather it is on a more fundamental interaction level. I don't see anything horrible about being an insect, or a plant, or even a rock for that matter, but that's just me.

The reason why I don't believe we reincarnate into lesser evolved creatures though is because this universe is constantly expanding and I believe our consciousness (interactions) continually expand along with it.

So regression to a lesser form is 'law' of nature?
No Higher Awareness to set things in that one direction of movement?

 

[AlphaAlex115]

The reason why I don't believe we reincarnate into lesser evolved creatures though is because this universe is constantly expanding and I believe our consciousness (interactions) continually expand along with it.

What do you mean by this?

 

[Runewolf1973]

If Hindus are required to accept other ways, paths, or truths.....
how then to retain those qualities of Hindu?
(no line drawn)

And then your previous post indicates you Do have a line drawn.

'.....don't care.....do as thou wilt.....'

The way I see it, to be One with All, one must be accepting of that All, not in conflict. I accept that your beliefs are different than mine and as stated, I have no problem with that. There is truth in everything, we just don't always realize it.

 

[Runewolf1973]

What do you mean by this?

Picture these wooden dolls as each one (each size) representing the total consciouness of a different creature. Now notice how the larger ones simply will not fit into the smaller ones. The middle one simply has nowhere else to go but up, not down. In the same way I believe our consciousness can only increase. Our level of consciouness is too great for us to reincarnate backwards into a fly, but perhaps one day that fly will experience consciousness just like us. We all started somewhere.

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[Runewolf1973]

So regression to a lesser form is 'law' of nature?
No Higher Awareness to set things in that one direction of movement?

No, I would say it's the other way around. Our universe is expanding remember...Our level of consciousness expands/increases along with it. However, all through this that same Oneness is retained.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

Picture these wooden dolls as each one (each size) representing the total consciouness of a different creature. Now notice how the larger ones simply will not fit into the smaller ones. The middle one simply has nowhere else to go but up, not down. In the same way I believe our consciousness can only increase. Our level of consciouness is too great for us to reincarnate backwards into a fly, but perhaps one day that fly will experience consciousness just like us. We all started somewhere.

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I'm still having trouble to understand your meaning.. are you saying that flies will become as conscious and as smart as we are?

 

[Runewolf1973]

I'm still having trouble to understand your meaning.. are you saying that flies will become as conscious and as smart as we are?

I believe everything evolves, even our consciousness evolves. So in a way yes, even a fly or a tree or a cat or dog may one day evolve to a point where they are just as conscious as we are.

 

[AlphaAlex115]

So one day a fly could become the new Einstein?

 

[Thief]

No, I would say it's the other way around. Our universe is expanding remember...Our level of consciousness expands/increases along with it. However, all through this that same Oneness is retained.

I cannot agree.
No two people share any one perspective.
The unique experience dealt by unique existence cannot be circumvented.
Conflict is inevitable.

You are who you are BECAUSE you have one point of existence.

I see no means to say you are one with all things.

You would have that character most believers give to God only.....
He knows all things.

I don't conceded that notion either.

 

[religion99]

According to Jainism , all the living beings have same mass - equal to the mass of the inhabited universe. Size and shape of each living being is same as the size and shape of the body it is bound to. So , by the formula of mass = volume * density , a living being with smaller body ( eg Ant ) has higher density than the living being with bigger body ( eg Elephant ).

When a living being dies , it immediately occupies another body somewhere in the Universe. So the size , shape and location of the new Body determines the size , shape , location and density of the living being after death , but the Mass will remain the same.

 

[Runewolf1973]

I cannot agree.
No two people share any one perspective.
The unique experience dealt by unique existence cannot be circumvented.
Conflict is inevitable.

You are who you are BECAUSE you have one point of existence.

I see no means to say you are one with all things.

You would have that character most believers give to God only.....
He knows all things.

I don't conceded that notion either.

We see things differently. Fair enough.

 

[Runewolf1973]

So one day a fly could become the new Einstein?

That's possible.