A little review...
I am only referring to the major religions.
I’m speaking of accepting the Founder and the spiritual teachings such as virtues and prayer etc not the laws. The administration of each faith would remain.
I think accepting our diversity and each other unconditionally is what is most needed now.
"Unconditionally"? No, there are conditions.
Are you talking about actual acceptance of other religions, or Baha'i-style "accept only the aspects of the other religions that agree with my own" acceptance?
No. What I’m saying are the spiritual things like virtues which we can all accept.
Ah, Baha'is accept the teachings about virtues.
The Baha’i temples do have the symbols of all the major religions in their architecture. Including Hinduism. We accept all the religions as true just not the manmade dogmas.
But Baha'is reject the "manmade" dogmas.
I think there's a fair bit of conflict between even the virtues of different religions.
For instance, faith in the Trinitarian God of (most) Christianity is incompatible with faith in the Oneness of God referenced in the Five Pillars of Islam.
No, no, no, that's not what Baha'is mean by "spiritual" teachings.
I’m mainly speaking about the spiritual virtues each religion teaches. Even the other religions you mentioned teach these virtues. Diversity has its place but not when it leads to confrontation. So middle ground, a common ground which all religions teach is the virtues. Also associating with each other in a spirit of friendliness and fellowship breaks down the barriers of ‘us vs them’. I personally love the diversity and love meditating in a pagoda or praying in a church or mosque.
Its not about all becoming the same but about learning to appreciate each others beliefs.
It is the virtues. But it is still important to learn to "appreciate" each other's beliefs.
Please tell me what the spiritual teaching is on these questions that's similar across all "major" religions:
- God is made up of how many persons?
- Was Jesus the Messiah?
- Was Muhammad a prophet?
- Did the Buddha attain enlightenment?
- Is pilgrimage to Mecca necessary?
- What does a person need to do to reach Heaven?
- What happens to unbelievers when they die?
No, no, no...
Virtues are things like love, respect, courtesy, compassion, caring, charity, empathy, detachment, moderation, wisdom, forgiveness, friendliness, gentleness, kindness and so on. KrIshna and Buddha and Christ all taught about love. There’s no real conflict. The essence of all religions is basically the same.
It' only the virtues.
I’m speaking about the virtues not the social laws or theological arguments.
Virtues only. Nothing else.
A minute ago, you were talking about "spiritual teachings."
You really are just interested in accepting a cartoon version of these other religions, aren't you? It seems like any point of disagreement with Baha'i teachings is shrugged off as unimportant.
I mean, you're basically implying that, say, the Nicene Creed isn't integral to Christianity and the Shahadah isn't integral to Islam.
Are you willing to go the other way? If someone said that they "accepted" the Baha'i faith except all the stuff from the Bab and Baha'u'llah, would you agree that they'd accepted your religion?
So I was right: we're only talking about accepting the parts of each religion that agree with the Baha'i faith.
Things would go much more smoothly if you and @loverofhumanity were open and honest about what you were doing.
It's wild to me - though not exactly surprising - that a thread about "accepting all major religions" would devolve into a couple of Baha'is trying to dictate to others what their religion is really about and quoting Baha'i religious works.
If you really want to accept other religions, then here's a challenge for you: quit it with the Baha'i quotes. Instead, support your points with quotes from, say, the Bible, the Qur'an, the Vedas, and Buddhist scripture. Can you do it?
Yes, that sounds right but...
As a Baha’i, I accept all the major religions, their Founders and Holy Books. I do believe that each religion prophecies the next religion but that the priests prevent their followers from accepting it which ends up with humanity being divided into several religions when in reality there was only ever one evolving religion.
No, Baha'is accept all the major religions, their founders and their Holy Books. And each religion prophecies about the next manifestation but those darn priests keep telling their people not to believe in them.
There is a link between all the major religions which connects them and can and will I believe eventually unite them. Each of the major religion foretells a Promised One and which will unite them all.
Each major religion has prophecies that tell of a Promised One. Which we should all know by now is Baha'u'llah.
I accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and the Bible as the Word of God
I accept Muhammad as the Prophet of God and the Quran as the Word of God
Muslims await the Imam Mahdi and the Second Coming of Christ after Muhammad and I believe that also.
Baha'is do accept all those other manifestations. But their time has passed. Now it's time for us to accept and follow the new one, Baha'u'llah.
So Baha’u’llah’s plan for uniting humanity is working while your world is literally falling apart at the seams with religions, races and nations against one another. Why can we get along yet your world cannot?
Yeah, his teachings are working to unite people.
With Baha’is we come from all the conflicting viewpoints but are united and have reconciled our differences. For example I am from Catholic background while others are from other sects and also from Buddhist, Hindu, Jew, Muslim, Zoroastrian and they are from the different sects of their own religion yet we are reconciled. So there is a way they can all reconcile. We are living proof of it. We come back to the thing in common that we have found unites us and that is that the Promised One of our respective religions. So for Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Jews and so on they have arrived at the conclusion from their own religious background that He has come and it all points for them each to the same Person - Baha’u’llah. Without Baha’u’llah I agree that the differences are difficult but not impossible.
Throughout this thread, you've told us about how you don't actually accept other religions. I'd also say that your attitude of "I only accept parts of what you are, not your whole essence" is pretty intolerant
Don't accept them? No, no...
We accept all the other religions as true and believe in them and that religion is capable of transforming people.
Baha'is do accept them.
So now you're talking about accepting people, not their religions. Do I understand you correctly.
By accepting the promised messiah we have accepted the religion. Those who have not accepted the messiah are In fact the ones that have rejected their religion not us. So a Christian rejects Christ when He returns means he is no longer a Christian in fact although he may still call himself one.
Accepting a religion means accepting its core tenets... i.e. the tenets that the religion itself proclaims as fundamental, not the ones that you as an outsider deem important. You've consistently said that this isn't something you're willing to do.
Core tenets? No, virtues. When a religion teaches about virtues, Baha'is believe in them. Core tenets? No...
As to sects with Hinduism it would be Vashnavism which believes in Krishna and the Bhagavad-Gita.
Accept when a core tenet agrees with what Baha'is believe.
So what you're saying here is that Baha'i accept Vaishnavism but reject Shaivism, Vedanta, and other denominations of Hinduism?
No... Would Baha'is say such a thing? They accept all major religions, don't they?
Shaivism doesn’t believe in Avatars and we believe in them.
Oh, this is just a sect of a major religion. A sect that doesn't believe something that Baha'is believe in. Wait... Baha'is believe in Avatars? Aren't Avatars incarnations of a God?
But anyway, in theory, it would be nice if all religions accepted each other. But, if they really new their own Scriptures and prophecies, they would subordinate themselves to the new truth from God. The truth that has come down to us through God's current manifestation, Baha'u'llah.