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What If Your Country Becomes Islamic

DawudTalut

Peace be upon you.
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Watching "you know what" does not harm people. ......................................... :(

Peace be on you.
:exclamation:For your eyes only:

"
According to this tradition reported by Ibn-e-Majah's Kitab-ul-Fitan, the Holy Prophet sa states:

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It never happens that permissiveness (fahsha) overwhelms a people to the extent that they display their acts of sex shamelessly and they are not uniquely punished by God. Among them, invariably, pestilence is made to spread and such other diseases, the like of which have never been witnessed by their forefathers.2

The word fahsha means 'permissiveness' with the connotation of audacity and shamelessness, resulting in open display of sex. It should be noted that mere permissiveness does not warrant so severe a chastisement from Allah; but when it exceeds all bounds and is acknowledged as a commonly accepted social behaviour, then that society is affected with some completely new sex-related disease as a sign of God's displeasure.

The accusing finger of this hadith seems to be pointing at the sinfulness of the present age rather than that of any other. Such shamelessness as has been described in the hadith is displayed these days on television, in newspapers and in magazines, day in and day out, to the extent that it has never been witnessed before in human history."

Source: The AIDS Virus

wwwDOTalislamDOTorg/library/books/revelation/part_6_section_6.html

(One is not sure you will be able to get the link opened)....try unblockanythingDOTcom or anything else.



Subject has root in Holy Quran:
[16:91] Verily, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed.

[24:31] Say to the believing men that they restrain their eyes and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Surely, Allah is well aware of what they do.

[24:32] And say to the believing women that they restrain their eyes and guard their private parts, and that they disclose not their natural and artificial beauty except that which is apparent thereof, and that they draw their head-coverings over their bosoms, and that they disclose not their beauty save to their husbands, or to their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands or their sons or the sons of their husbands or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or what their right hands possess, or such of male attendants as have no sexual appetite, or young children who have no knowledge of the hidden parts of women. And they strike not their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may become known. And turn ye to Allah all together, O believers, that you may succeed.

[alislamDOTorg/quran]

Hence there is very strong link between watching and "you know what" (as you said).

Personally, I feel, if people:
a) do not start 'actions', as soon as they have change in hormones and then
b) marriages are done earlier, say around 18 +, much of porn industry will end by itself.
 

Smart_Guy

...
Premium Member
Peace be on you.
:exclamation:For your eyes only:

"
According to this tradition reported by Ibn-e-Majah's Kitab-ul-Fitan, the Holy Prophet sa states:

Arabic_Page647.gif

It never happens that permissiveness (fahsha) overwhelms a people to the extent that they display their acts of sex shamelessly and they are not uniquely punished by God. Among them, invariably, pestilence is made to spread and such other diseases, the like of which have never been witnessed by their forefathers.2

The word fahsha means 'permissiveness' with the connotation of audacity and shamelessness, resulting in open display of sex. It should be noted that mere permissiveness does not warrant so severe a chastisement from Allah; but when it exceeds all bounds and is acknowledged as a commonly accepted social behaviour, then that society is affected with some completely new sex-related disease as a sign of God's displeasure.

The accusing finger of this hadith seems to be pointing at the sinfulness of the present age rather than that of any other. Such shamelessness as has been described in the hadith is displayed these days on television, in newspapers and in magazines, day in and day out, to the extent that it has never been witnessed before in human history."

Source: The AIDS Virus

wwwDOTalislamDOTorg/library/books/revelation/part_6_section_6.html

(One is not sure you will be able to get the link opened)....try unblockanythingDOTcom or anything else.



Subject has root in Holy Quran:
[16:91] Verily, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed.

[24:31] Say to the believing men that they restrain their eyes and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Surely, Allah is well aware of what they do.

[24:32] And say to the believing women that they restrain their eyes and guard their private parts, and that they disclose not their natural and artificial beauty except that which is apparent thereof, and that they draw their head-coverings over their bosoms, and that they disclose not their beauty save to their husbands, or to their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands or their sons or the sons of their husbands or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or what their right hands possess, or such of male attendants as have no sexual appetite, or young children who have no knowledge of the hidden parts of women. And they strike not their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may become known. And turn ye to Allah all together, O believers, that you may succeed.

[alislamDOTorg/quran]

Hence there is very strong link between watching and "you know what" (as you said).

Personally, I feel, if people:
a) do not start 'actions', as soon as they have change in hormones and then
b) marriages are done earlier, say around 18 +, much of porn industry will end by itself.

Thank you for the advice and reminding me :)

I really do not want immorality to spread.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
This is one of the reasons why I find forced conversions intolerable. And if you are born into a Muslim family and stop believing, what is your fate then?

According to an article I read a while ago and a few assorted sources, it seems that most Muslims would find it very inconsiderate to admit face front to an atheist friend or relative that they know of his/her atheism.

Far too close to saying that the atheist is weak in his faith or an outright ungrateful recipient of God's gift for confort, I assume.

It really seems to me that most Muslims think of atheism as some sort of disease or in rare occasions an actual crime. Calling someone an atheist is usually an attempt at insulting that person.

Perhaps in at least some cases they just think of us as arrogant or simply foolish people who can't see the truth or are too proud to admit or accept it?

As a rule, Muslim cultures have a very weak understanding of atheism.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Is that so? What do you see as common failures of atheists at understanding Islam and Muslims?
I don't think most atheists (at least online) view Muslims as completely human. Look at all the hysterics over Muslim immigration and Islamification. As if Muslims can't function in liberal democracies the way vampires can't function in sunshine.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I don't think I agree, but I guess I can be convinced otherwise given enough evidence.

Edited to add: quite frankly, I don't see Muslims as all that different from many Christians. The wiser Muslims are far more reasonable than the worst Christians.
 
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Jumi

Well-Known Member
I don't think most atheists (at least online) view Muslims as completely human. Look at all the hysterics over Muslim immigration and Islamification. As if Muslims can't function in liberal democracies the way vampires can't function in sunshine.
Although I don't agree with their beliefs, Muslims are humans just like the rest of us. I have experiences both good and bad with them. What I wouldn't want is any religious laws or compounds for anyone.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
According to an article I read a while ago and a few assorted sources, it seems that most Muslims would find it very inconsiderate to admit face front to an atheist friend or relative that they know of his/her atheism.

Far too close to saying that the atheist is weak in his faith or an outright ungrateful recipient of God's gift for confort, I assume.

It really seems to me that most Muslims think of atheism as some sort of disease or in rare occasions an actual crime. Calling someone an atheist is usually an attempt at insulting that person.
You mustfightthe pagans
Mushrik=equivalent toan atheist

Perhaps in at least some cases they just think of us as arrogant or simply foolish people who can't see the truth or are too proud to admit or accept it?

As a rule, Muslim cultures have a very weak understanding of atheism.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Peace be on you.
:exclamation:For your eyes only:

"
According to this tradition reported by Ibn-e-Majah's Kitab-ul-Fitan, the Holy Prophet sa states:

Arabic_Page647.gif

It never happens that permissiveness (fahsha) overwhelms a people to the extent that they display their acts of sex shamelessly and they are not uniquely punished by God. Among them, invariably, pestilence is made to spread and such other diseases, the like of which have never been witnessed by their forefathers.2

The word fahsha means 'permissiveness' with the connotation of audacity and shamelessness, resulting in open display of sex. It should be noted that mere permissiveness does not warrant so severe a chastisement from Allah; but when it exceeds all bounds and is acknowledged as a commonly accepted social behaviour, then that society is affected with some completely new sex-related disease as a sign of God's displeasure.

The accusing finger of this hadith seems to be pointing at the sinfulness of the present age rather than that of any other. Such shamelessness as has been described in the hadith is displayed these days on television, in newspapers and in magazines, day in and day out, to the extent that it has never been witnessed before in human history."

Source: The AIDS Virus

wwwDOTalislamDOTorg/library/books/revelation/part_6_section_6.html

(One is not sure you will be able to get the link opened)....try unblockanythingDOTcom or anything else.



Subject has root in Holy Quran:
[16:91] Verily, Allah enjoins justice, and the doing of good to others; and giving like kindred; and forbids indecency, and manifest evil, and wrongful transgression. He admonished you that you may take heed.

[24:31] Say to the believing men that they restrain their eyes and guard their private parts. That is purer for them. Surely, Allah is well aware of what they do.

[24:32] And say to the believing women that they restrain their eyes and guard their private parts, and that they disclose not their natural and artificial beauty except that which is apparent thereof, and that they draw their head-coverings over their bosoms, and that they disclose not their beauty save to their husbands, or to their fathers, or the fathers of their husbands or their sons or the sons of their husbands or their brothers, or the sons of their brothers, or the sons of their sisters, or their women, or what their right hands possess, or such of male attendants as have no sexual appetite, or young children who have no knowledge of the hidden parts of women. And they strike not their feet so that what they hide of their ornaments may become known. And turn ye to Allah all together, O believers, that you may succeed.

[alislamDOTorg/quran]

Hence there is very strong link between watching and "you know what" (as you said).

Personally, I feel, if people:
a) do not start 'actions', as soon as they have change in hormones and then
b) marriages are done earlier, say around 18 +, much of porn industry will end by itself.
Which is the best porn sex on the floor
Or sex in porn paradis eIslam?
Because men have sex with them all practiced mermaids and you know the verses and the nymphs too?!?
Is it called the-.
Some kind ofsex God??!?

Do you think that Islamis strongly discouraged on porn sex??
Come with me-in short score
1. porn ographic sexual-polygamy.
For what???
For that reason sexual porn is not suppressed sexuality (aphrodisiac)
For that there is no ethical objection to it
That personal freedom
Islam does not curb such desires but encouraged
By finding alegit cover
2. marriage in Islam
Is a type of sexf or a price
Marriage in the Qur'an, but it was the Caliph Omar Ibn Khattab.
3. There is a difference in interpretation of the Quran
Daughters of plow you escaped the daughter sIif you like
Here is the verse is clear of kisses and sex anal-.
Because I like not only time but also place
Commentators are trying to obscure this verse
4. divorce twice and return to first wife
Aftermarryinganother man
And terms of intercourse and entry and penetration.
Do you think these verses discourages porn sex???
5. Queens right?!?
How to exercise with man sex without marriage??
DoQueensrightwives
Or are women slaves practicing Muslim sex with them without a contract girl-
Do you think this is porn sex???
Questions unanswered
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I believe if it were good Islam instead of bad Islam I wouldn't have a problem.

In good Islam it would be recognized that religious laws of Islam could not be imposed on people with a different belief. In bad Islam it is convert or die or follow the rules of Isalm or be punished.

I don't drink alcohol much so I wouldn't miss it.

I have faithfully been married for 45 years.

As a Christian it is necessary for me to talk about the Good News and no evil would prevent me from doing so.
Thisspeech--nottrue-.
Islam in Muslim countries imposelaws
To every one
If Islam controla country
Laws shall be the prevailing
It means that there is a difference and distinction between Muslim and who is not a Muslim-.-
Muhammad-the expulsion of the peopleof Najran Christians
And said-
Dinandoes not meetonthe island
Recent events in Mosul
Stresses that Islam when ever his power it uses his power to control and impose its faith in force-
Who knows the city's recentevents
Know the truth of Islam.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Yes, you're right. That verse says to bring down over themselves part of their outer garment. At first "bringing down" sounded like doing it over the face since only what is up goes down. I guess being up is gradual and not specifically on the head, so I guess I was wrong. My bad. I guess it is a general modesty dress code for women that some Muslims these days take is extremely over board and include all body parts in it and in black.

I guess this leaves borrowing teachings from Christianity and Judaism. I see mother Marry presented with a head scarf and nuns wear similarly so as well. Maybe that is a teaching in Christianity that Islam adopted?
You havethe right tothat assumption?!?
Clothing and modesty of the Christianity???
The Christianreligionreligioncompatibleintheir teachings
Muslimworks onhisheadtocoverby-.
They walk with him as one of the things-
God created usfree
Walkas we want
Wearwhat we want
We live in the 21st century
Women'sfashionin thistimedifferent fromour mothersfashion
Yes it's true

I prefer awomanthatdoes notcover her face
And wear modern
The robe and cloak
Womana
And her personal property have
You have noright toassault
You should know thatno personbeofpurityin it
Jesus taught us that ethics: from inside our souls
The clothesreflect thelevel of development
It does not imply any dissolution of the breach
If you reject the morals of women and their clothes back to your country and your teachings on women
The freedom ofwomen in the West
Freedom todreamofMuslimin Muslim countries
 
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