What is 'Islamophobia'?

[YmirGF]

I said that generally because I have read her posts before about Islam and violence

Assumption have a tendency to get one into trouble.

 

[shmogie]

I'm Iranian and my people were victims of 8 years imposed war

Would u please tell me that Who gave those weapons to Iraq???

Weren't they some European countries???

A good question, the answer to which I am not sure about. Certainly poison gas technology was developed in Europe during WW1

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Seems to me it depends upon where you draw the line.
How many Christians dis Mormon?
How many Christians dis Catholics?
How many Christians dis Westboro Baptist Church?

Now, how many people believe that the ones being dissed above are Christians?

We have had at least one Catholic president, we had a Mormon running four years ago, but an Atheist is considered, by most people, someone they won't vote for, and it's just because they are an atheist. Some states even have their own laws prohibiting atheists from running for/holding office (not enforceable if challenged, but as they say it's the thought that counts).
Christians, on the other hand, are pretty much their own worst enemies.

 

[shmogie]

That's a medical sort of phobia, it's reasons for creation are much different than politically created phobias such as Islamophobia.

Islamophobia

Scroll down a page or two in that link and you'll see what I mean.

Politically created " phobia's " are just another example of debasing words and the language to manipulate people to adopt the "right" views and demonize those who don't have the "right" views. In my experience, liberals are masters at this.

 

[shmogie]

What is wrong with those people who don't use paragraphs?

What is wrong with people who worry about people who don't use paragraphs ? Is that continuousphobia ?

 

[jeager106]

Islamophobia.
Could have a wee bit to do with things like this:
Jihad Report
Dec 03, 2016 -
Dec 09, 2016
Attacks
41
Killed
327
Injured
515
Suicide Blasts
6

Countries 11
In ONE week world wide.

ALL OTHER RELIGIONS COMBINED? ZERO.

Doesn't that sum it up pretty well?

 

[Kirran]

ALL OTHER RELIGIONS COMBINED? ZERO.

This post was getting your point across well, but you delegitimised yourself somewhat with this line. Do you really think that no Rohingyas have been killed thanks to the incitement by Buddhist monks in Myanmar this week, or that no Falun Dafa people have been killed, or that Christian terrorists haven't killed anybody in Central Africa or NE India?

It'll be less than 327, I suspect, but zero isn't particularly believable.

EDIT: And it should really go without saying that the strength of Islamic terrorist groups is not an accurate measure for what Muslims generally are about. Let's say 500 terrorist-supporting Muslims to each of those people killed, that's less than 200,000. There are 1.6 billion Muslims.

Your stats do not really support your argument after some scrutiny.

 

[Rival]

I said that generally because I have read her posts before about Islam and violence

Don't worry; you'll get used to me.

You don't have Rivalophobia, do you?

 

[Deathbydefault]

Politically created " phobia's " are just another example of debasing words and the language to manipulate people to adopt the "right" views and demonize those who don't have the "right" views. In my experience, liberals are masters at this.

Then I'll have to ask you to go out of your way to find a dictionary definition that defines Islamophobia as an "unreasonable fear." I gave my definition and provided source, your turn. Let's have a discussion.

Edit: changed "irrational" to "unreasonable"

 

[jeager106]

This post was getting your point across well, but you delegitimised yourself somewhat with this line. Do you really think that no Rohingyas have been killed thanks to the incitement by Buddhist monks in Myanmar this week, or that no Falun Dafa people have been killed, or that Christian terrorists haven't killed anybody in Central Africa or NE India?

It'll be less than 327, I suspect, but zero isn't particularly believable.

EDIT: And it should really go without saying that the strength of Islamic terrorist groups is not an accurate measure for what Muslims generally are about. Let's say 500 terrorist-supporting Muslims to each of those people killed, that's less than 200,000. There are 1.6 billion Muslims.

Your stats do not really support your argument after some scrutiny.

I stand corrected and thank you for that.
Sometimes my emotions override my comments.
I double checked and you are spot on right. 1.6 Billion expected
to be 2.2 Billion by 2030.
Thanks again.

 

[jaybird]

the reason we have this (US) IMO is we have the most corrupt government ever and the best way to keep the people from this fact is to keep them distracted with garbage.

 

[Kirran]

the reason we have this (US) IMO is we have the most corrupt government ever and the best way to keep the people from this fact is to keep them distracted with garbage.

The USA has the most corrupt government ever? Really?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

You don't have Rivalophobia, do you?

I do; she's terrifying. But don't tell her I said that...

 

[jeager106]

The USA has the most corrupt government ever? Really?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary facts.
Please elaborate?

 

[Rival]

I do; she's terrifying. But don't tell her I said that...

Your secret's safe with me.

 

[Kirran]

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary facts.
Please elaborate?

Well yes, I think it is an extraordinary claim. I don't see how it can possibly be backed up. There is a tendency to think 'Oh we have it the worst off' but there are many governments that are much more corrupt than the USA's, not that it doesn't have conflicts.

 

[jaybird]

The USA has the most corrupt government ever? Really?

lots of corrupt governments in our world. when you consider how many countless other governments we have poisoned, US is above all others by miles.

 

[Kirran]

lots of corrupt governments in our world. when you consider how many countless other governments we have poisoned, US is above all others by miles.

By what measure is it the most corrupt then? I was assuming you meant in the normal sense of having private interests being more prominent in politics. Do you mean it otherwise, such as in the sense of moral corruption?

Because in terms of the degree to which governments are embroiled in personal interests and are resistant to democratic processes, the USA is bad, but still way better than about half the world's countries. Look at somewhere like India, or Zimbabwe, or Gambia.

 

[jaybird]

By what measure is it the most corrupt then? I was assuming you meant in the normal sense of having private interests being more prominent in politics. Do you mean it otherwise, such as in the sense of moral corruption?

Because in terms of the degree to which governments are embroiled in personal interests and are resistant to democratic processes, the USA is bad, but still way better than about half the world's countries. Look at somewhere like India, or Zimbabwe, or Gambia.

read the history of every single poor as dirt central and south american country, they were made poor by the US.
i have looked at india and zimbabwe. india destroyed by britain (our friends) and zimbabwe by US / europe. the black africans do not own anything of any economic value in their own countries.
last 50 yrs Islam terrorist have killed 1 million if that.
US in 50 years more than 20 million.
when it comes to killing the muslims are not in the same league as us
i know of no other government responsible for more blood and destruction.

 

[Kirran]

read the history of every single poor as dirt central and south american country, they were made poor by the US.
i have looked at india and zimbabwe. india destroyed by britain (our friends) and zimbabwe by US / europe. the black africans do not own anything of any economic value in their own countries.
last 50 yrs Islam terrorist have killed 1 million if that.
US in 50 years more than 20 million.
when it comes to killing the muslims are not in the same league as us
i know of no other government responsible for more blood and destruction.

I see, we are indeed using different methodologies to quantify corruption.

By this measure, we can say that the UK is the most corrupt, as it started the USA off and is therefore responsible for its corruption.

But wait, the UK was essentially created by England, which is the successor to Germanic states such as Mercia and Wessex, founded by people from what is now Denmark and Germany. So we have to give the prize to Germany!