What is nonbinary?

[SkepticThinker]

No, you don't know, you think you are non binary but it does not exist outside of your mind.

Ah, so you know better than somebody else, who and what they are?
The arrogance in that is astounding.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I don’t think Barry Humphries (who’s been portraying Dame Edna Everage for the last 50 years) is particularly confused about who he is. Just saying

Or Rupaul.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Thanks, I get it now.
So they are two separated concepts.

Yes! Non-binary has to do with your identity. Bisexual has to do with who you find sexually attractive. One is about identity, the other about sexual orientation.

 

[VoidCat]

I posted this thread for anyone who is interested in asking good faith questions about being nonbinary:

Ask a nonbinary person

Inspired by @We Never Know. And his thread. Ask me anything about being nonbinary so long it's in good faith. To spread understanding. Keep in mind i can only answer in regards to my own experience not anyone else's. Also this is not a thread to debate if nonbinary folk exist. Please don't flood...

www.religiousforums.com

 

[crossfire]

Honestly I think that in Mediterranean cultures the feminine and the masculine are very extreme notions.
I was raised to believe that a person who enjoys having sex with a woman and to be the active part is the emblem of masculinity, manliness, manhood, virility.

So what you do in bed defines who we are.
We are not separated from what we do in bed.

Non-binary, I guess was invented to make the feminine and the masculine more nuanced.
I will not be a part of this.
I don't accept this notion.
I am extremely proud of being raised in a Mediterranean culture, where masculine and feminine are perfectly defined.

If I was raised in such a culture, I personally would want no part of it, and would be proud to be an outcast. Your mileage may vary.

 

[crossfire]

There are no non binary people

Of course there are. Just because they are considered to be outcasts by some societies does not mean that they do not exist.

 

[We Never Know]

If you can change your sex, then you can change your race. Next people will be transracial.

Already happening. Here's one...

"Nkechi Amare Diallo is an American former college instructor and activist known for identifying as a transracial black woman"

Rachel Dolezal - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Orbit]

Don’t show me break away Religions that distort the gospels to suit their agenda.
Show me the verses in the bible supporting Gay marriage and homosexuality in general.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged". The son of God himself said that, maybe you should listen.

 

[Kfox]

So what is a "man"? How do you look at someone and identify them as a "man" if the traits are irrelevant?

Biology.

 

[Estro Felino]

If I was raised in such a culture, I personally would want no part of it, and would be proud to be an outcast. Your mileage may vary.

If feminine and masculine are subjective notions...that change according to people's sensations, I could also express my subjective take (my opinion) on the notions of femininity and masculinity in the US.

 

[Madmogwai]

You'll have to come to grips with the fact that most educated people know something about "the Gospels," and their provenance. We don't get all hung up on the literalistic interpretation of ancient people who's most important science was raising goats.

Good, don’t follow the Bible if you feel that way.
the issue is not with people that are Gay, or live a Gay lifestyle.
My issue is with people that follow Religions that are anti gay and twist the teachings to suit their lifestyle.
My issue is with the people who act perverted, the Gays that do not should also be offended as the people are making the Gay community look like an over sexualised pack of deviates, decent Gay people should be against this.
My issue is with any form of sexualised show for children, men dancing in thongs, signs saying lick it, you should be standing against this behaviour because whenever we see people in the Gay community that is the behaviour we see.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged". The son of God himself said that, maybe you should listen."You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Chapter 18 verse 22

 

[Madmogwai]

Leviticus

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13
Romans 1:26–26
That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Genesis 1:27-28​

"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens

4. Matthew 19:4-6​

"'Haven't you read,' he replied, 'that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' and said, 'For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.'"

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.

I Don’t Judge, but the Lord does.

 

[Madmogwai]

Ah, so you know better than somebody else, who and what they are?
The arrogance in that is astounding.

You call it arrogance we call it truth

 

[Madmogwai]

"Judge not, lest ye be judged". The son of God himself said that, maybe you should listen.

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
Hebrews 13:4

Leviticus
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Chapter 18 verse 22
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13

Romans 1:26–27

That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

He answered, "Have you not read that the one who made them at the beginning 'made them male and female', and said, 'For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."
— Matthew 19:4–6 (NRSV)

It would appear he judges, it also appears from the verses above I have been listening

 

[We Never Know]

Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
Hebrews 13:4

Leviticus
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an abomination." Chapter 18 verse 22
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Chapter 20 verse 13

Romans 1:26–27


It would appear he judges, it also appears from the verses above I have been listening

"Marriage should be honored by all"

Then why don't you honor a marriage between Bob and Bill?

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman"

They don't. There is no vagina. They lay with a male as with a male.

Its not rocket science

 

[Madmogwai]

"Marriage should be honored by all"

Then why don't you honor a marriage between Bob and Bill?

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman"

They don't. There is no vagina. They lay with a male as with a male.

Its not rocket science

That is the most pathetic attempt to twist a verse to you liking.
And then you say it’s not rocket science like you are a scholar.

 

[We Never Know]

That is the most pathetic attempt to twist a verse to you liking.
And then you say it’s not rocket science like you are a scholar.

With Bob and Bill.. It involves two rockets, its not rocket science.

 

[Estro Felino]

"Marriage should be honored by all"

Then why don't you honor a marriage between Bob and Bill?

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman"

They don't. There is no vagina. They lay with a male as with a male.

Its not rocket science

Some priests have interpreted that passage with: you shall not lie with your wife on even days, and with a muscular stud on the odd ones.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Biology.

And how do you identify someone's biology?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

And how do you identify someone's biology?

And how it plays out in the brain?