Skwim
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But the reality at the time, before they bit the apple, was that it was what it was, and supposedly there was no physical mortality.Tlaloc said:One could possibly argue the realisation of nakedness is to be exposed to the realities of the human state and our eventual physical mortality.
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Good point.Buttercup said:What I find interesting about Adam and Eve's nakedness is that yes, it is a metaphor for their innocence. However, once they sinned by eating the forbidden fruit, they felt shame by their nakedness. How crappy is that? Not a great way for a "parent" to instill good feelings about one's body, is it?
As if they had any idea what dying consisted of.God had warned them this would happen.
''We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden; but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat of it, nor shall you touch it, lest ye die.'" Genesis 3:2, 3
Yup, which goes to show that those who concocted they tale weren't concerned with its logic.Seems a rather harsh penalty for disobedience.
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Sure there is. We're told that having eaten the apple they were ashamed of their nudity.Terrywoodenpic said:There is no reason to suppose that nakedness nor clothes had any thing to do with modesty,and certainly not anything to do with God.
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Are you implying that had they not eaten the apple they would never of had sex? That they would be the first and last humans?Katzpur said:I believe it has to do with their sexual innocence. And by "innocence" I don't mean that they'd never had sex; I mean that they didn't even realize they were naked. In other words, their sexual feelings had not matured. They were not sexually drawn to one another. It was not until after they ate the forbidden fruit that they became sexually aware and sexually active.
Genesis 3:7 (NLT)The Bible doesn't say they were ashamed, though, does it?
"At that moment their eyes were opened, and they suddenly felt shame at their nakedness. So they sewed fig leaves together to cover themselves."
Besides in Genesis 2:25 the matter of shame is conspicuously put on the table.
"The man and his wife were naked, but they were not ashamed."
Which is obviously laying the groundwork for their later state of shamefulness.
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What's this "it" you speak of?savagewind said:A naked body you can see. Clothes cause a covering of it so you can't see it. A naked mind you can see. God clothed the mind so now you can't see it. Can you read minds? How do you know it was never possible or that it isn't possible?