ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
whats that clap for? being intolerant to my answer? look this can go on and on!
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What is wrong with idol worship?
- Thread starter Surya Deva
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whats that clap for? being intolerant to my answer? look this can go on and on!
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
The form is just for the sake of a depiction. So people can say, this is Ramji, and he just says that, we do not know what he looks like, it is said he had dark skin. They are not wrong in doing that, if they wish to air the Ramayan on TV, they need someone to play the part of Ramji.
Don't worry, that is not offensive, that is jsut being curious, we are al lcurious sometimes
Don Penguinoini
Modi.
Can you please point out how i was intolerant to your answer?
Surya Deva
Well-Known Member
Ax,
It is evident you lack a lot of knowledge on Hinduism. So be humble and listen to and pay attention to those who do have knowledge in Hinduism tell you.
Avatars? You need to understand what Hindus believe about that supreme entity or supreme being, you can use the word god if you want if it helps you understand it. The Hindus consider this whole universe to be his projection, and he projects through us. In the same ways the sun and it's rays spread in out all directions. However, not all rays are the same, some are scattered, while some are his most concentrated. Those concentrated rays are known as enlightened souls and when they reach a level of concentration equal to him, they are known as self-realised souls or avatars.
It is believed in Hinduism that Krishna and Rama were avatars, that they were self-realised souls(god's most concentrated rays) so they are considered god's forms themselves.
In the Gita Krishna says that he incarnates whenever adharma outbalances dharma. He says he is the supreme being, so he has no desires, there is nothing in the universe that he cannot not attain, but he still has to do his work. The only difference is he does his work without being attached to the result. He does it because it is his dharma. So these avatars are incarnations of god which incarnate only to do their work.
This is why they are worshipped. Are you going to make an attempt to understand this?
It is evident you lack a lot of knowledge on Hinduism. So be humble and listen to and pay attention to those who do have knowledge in Hinduism tell you.
Avatars? You need to understand what Hindus believe about that supreme entity or supreme being, you can use the word god if you want if it helps you understand it. The Hindus consider this whole universe to be his projection, and he projects through us. In the same ways the sun and it's rays spread in out all directions. However, not all rays are the same, some are scattered, while some are his most concentrated. Those concentrated rays are known as enlightened souls and when they reach a level of concentration equal to him, they are known as self-realised souls or avatars.
It is believed in Hinduism that Krishna and Rama were avatars, that they were self-realised souls(god's most concentrated rays) so they are considered god's forms themselves.
In the Gita Krishna says that he incarnates whenever adharma outbalances dharma. He says he is the supreme being, so he has no desires, there is nothing in the universe that he cannot not attain, but he still has to do his work. The only difference is he does his work without being attached to the result. He does it because it is his dharma. So these avatars are incarnations of god which incarnate only to do their work.
This is why they are worshipped. Are you going to make an attempt to understand this?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
If only all children were so wise.
I think you nailed this one pretty well, Don. There is a significant difference between being familiar with scriptural dogma and being aware of spirituality.
In regards to the OP, there is nothing wrong with the use of idols, period. The idol is a symbol for something much greater than is apparent to a superficial glance. In my side trip through Vedantic/Vaisnava thought, it was never about the idols themselves. It was all about what they represented. They served as a springboard, in a sense, as something that was tangible in our world that took the believer beyond the limits of their physical senses. Sorry, my feeble words don't express it too well.
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Don Penguinoini
Modi.
You must stop! Really i am not that good! if you saw me in real life you would think i am some sort of yob or something!
JTFC
Member
Many people don't understand each others religion, and often criticize other religions without specific intentions.
You should not worry, Suraj, about what other people say about idol worship. Do do what you know you must do. Follow your heart and be open to what your intuition may tell you.
Idol worship is what you think it is, and not what others tell you.
Peace and serenity be with you,
JTFC
You should not worry, Suraj, about what other people say about idol worship. Do do what you know you must do. Follow your heart and be open to what your intuition may tell you.
Idol worship is what you think it is, and not what others tell you.
Peace and serenity be with you,
JTFC
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
Does any one here think that my point was to convert anyone. I explained eveything because, my religion prohibits it due to the reasons I explained. There have been hindus doing idol worship and there will be. I just don't see why every is against me - i just simply answered the question. You don't have to change your thinking. If you think you are right thn thats it - no arguing. By the way I just said that Idol worship is decieveing and there wrong = answer to your question - this is not intolerance,this is my explanation. You asked a question and the answer was ofcource going to opposite - that not called intolerance!
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ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
can you point how I was intolerant to your question!
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
Of course I don't have any detailed kowledge about hinduism - all i remember is watching Ramayana and Shaktiman. so carry on!
You are saying Krishan JI was avtar - that don is saying no - Please clarify! who is right?
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
I guarantee you worship Idols!lol - don't be offended!
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
Please, tell me was I wrong anywhere on my part. They asked question and I answered it - now if the answer is contradictory that does not mean I am intolerant!
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
Well this where the twist lies. Probably how we define god is different than yours!
want to be hindu
Member
The complete works of Swami Vivekanada is a good place to start. I dont see the need for you to read about Hinduism. Sikhism is a full enoght philosophy for any one.
Sri Ramakrishna and Swami Vivekananda
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
This is exactly where you have been intolerant. There was no sign of swere words before - you started it. I was just answering the question and saying why idol worship is wrong! if don't accept my answer thats upto you!
ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
I know that Sikhsm is full of thought and philosophy. I want to myself read and see the philosophy of hinduism too. otherwise every point I make is essentialy going to be labeled wrong translation.
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ax0547
Sat Sri Akal
by the way you website is cool! thanks bro