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What is wrong with Islam?

kaoticprofit

Active Member
That is hardly established.

In fact, there is considerable evidence to the contrary. Hitler has been known to state that he believed his surviving World War I was a sign that he was meant for bigger designs.
Well your wrong. One of Hitlers top men who was close to him said,
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...Joseph Goebbels and Martin Bormann to perpetrate the Nazi persecutions of the churches.[21] His remarks to confidants, as described in the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Albert Speer,[22] and transcripts of Hitler's private conversations recorded by Martin Bormann in Hitler's Table Talk, indicate anti-Christian beliefs. Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
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Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If you don't want to read Quran then don't do It, It's only a reminder. If you don't want to pray 5 times a day then don't do It, It's only a recommendation. If you don't want to read Islamic books then you don't have to do It, It's only a motivation. A motivation for you to remember The Creator.

What is wrong with Islam? Now days there is a lot of criticism about Islamic religion. Terrorist this and terrorist that. There is 0.007% chance that I am a terrorist. Life is a gamble.

I met a soldier at the gym. This is what he tolled me: "When I was in Iraq I looked at the thermometer and It was 150 degrees F, no wonder why those people are so aggressive."

Hot temperatures increase aggression by directly increasing feelings of hostility and indirectly increasing aggressive thoughts.

If you add hot weather with people coming to your nation for oil. What will the outcome be?
Islam doesn't fit with Christianity...
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Well your wrong. One of Hitlers top men who was close to him said,
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...Joseph Goebbels and Martin Bormann to perpetrate the Nazi persecutions of the churches.[21] His remarks to confidants, as described in the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Albert Speer,[22] and transcripts of Hitler's private conversations recorded by Martin Bormann in Hitler's Table Talk, indicate anti-Christian beliefs. Goebbels wrote in 1941 that Hitler "hates Christianity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
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I have heard of that claim about the Goebbels Diaries.

Frankly, I have a lot of doubt about how reliable it is. It is quite the outlier from other pieces of evidence.
 

interminable

منتظر
I was near the towers just days before Muslims flew jet liners into the towers. If you want to believe anything other than the truth have at it. I could care less if people believe in conspiracy theories or people who disregard such simple truths.

Hey the earth is flat and we never landed on the moon. OH! And because the moon appears to be the same size as the sun they are equal distances from earth!

I'll no longer respond to replies from people who are misled to the degree you are. It's only going to go bad.
Thank goodness this question (collapse of building 7 ) wasn't asked by Muslims
It's asked by American experts that aren't Muslims and a good evidence is that BBC reported it's collapse 20 minutes before its collapse

I ignored lots of evidences that show this happened by US


And please think if I as a Muslim recruit some criminal Christians to explode a church what do u say?
Christians did that or a Muslim?

The same question is about 911
It's true they were Muslims but please consider who supported them??
It was just a good pretext to attack Afghanistan and kill Muslims and the most important thing was to put Muslims in western countries under pressure and defame Islam and they became successful
 
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kaoticprofit

Active Member
Thank goodness this question (collapse of building 7 ) wasn't asked by Muslims
It's asked by American experts that aren't Muslims and a good evidence is that BBC reported it's collapse 20 minutes before its collapse

I ignored lots of evidences that show this happened by US


And please think if I as a Muslim recruit some criminal Christians to explode a church what do u say?
Christians did that or a Muslim?

The same question is about 911
It's true they were Muslims but please consider who supported them??
It was just a good pretext to attack Afghanistan and kill Muslims and the most important thing was to put Muslims in western countries under pressure and defame Islam and they became successful

Last comment to you. You're misled, deceived, and have fallen for a very big bunch of lies. I bet you're a liberal!
 

kaoticprofit

Active Member
I have heard of that claim about the Goebbels Diaries.

Frankly, I have a lot of doubt about how reliable it is. It is quite the outlier from other pieces of evidence.
I have my doubts about how reliable you are, and the rest of the bunch that I have to stand against on this forum.
People are always in denial of things truth debunks!
 

interminable

منتظر
Last comment to you. You're misled, deceived, and have fallen for a very big bunch of lies. I bet you're a liberal!
Answering to my question (collapse of building 7 ) wasn't really hard. I can assume that u had nothing to say

Besides I'm a pious Muslim that don't allow myself to bother plants let alone killing animals

Even isis was created by US to fortify Israel regime's borders and divide middle east countries into small ones to undermine them.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Answering to my question (collapse of building 7 ) wasn't really hard. I can assume that u had nothing to say

Besides I'm a pious Muslim that don't allow myself to bother plants let alone killing animals

Even isis was created by US to fortify Israel regime's borders and divide middle east countries into small ones to undermine them.
I truly wish people would be more responsible before spreading such venomous and unfounded rumors (I don't want to call them lies, but I probably should).

Did you not recently ask for people to be careful in their judgements in this same thread?
 

interminable

منتظر
I truly wish people would be more responsible before spreading such venomous and unfounded rumors (I don't want to call them lies, but I probably should).

Did you not recently ask for people to be careful in their judgements in this same thread?
As I told u before u don't live in middle east
U know nothing about US activities in our area

Isis has weapons made by US in 2016
Who has given them to isis?????

Who has sent more and more foods for terrorists in Iraq and Syria by their soldiers?????
Who destroyed some bridge in Syria to protect terrorists?????
Who gathered terrorists from 100 countries?????
All by US
 

kaoticprofit

Active Member
As I told u before u don't live in middle east
U know nothing about US activities in our area All by US

I don't? I have friends and relatives that worked in several Mid-East countries since 911, one for over ten years. I know people who worked in some of the intelligence agencies both in the Mid-East and India. I likely know more than you as to what my country is doing there.
 

interminable

منتظر
I don't? I have friends and relatives that worked in several Mid-East countries since 911, one for over ten years. I know people who worked in some of the intelligence agencies both in the Mid-East and India. I likely know more than you as to what my country is doing there.
There is a mistake
I didn't say that about u it was Luis
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It's a matter of believing you, or Joseph Goebbels who was one of Hitlers closest associates.
Goebbels is not exactly famous for his veracity, you know. That is just one of several perspectives from which to question that specific claim.

And as previously noted, pretty much everything else about Hitler points very strongly towards a Catholic with delusions of divine favor. Including his own claims of being spared in the war fields for a higher purpose and his choice of the Swastika that adorned the place where he studied to become a priest as a symbol of his ambitious party of conquest.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Is that why in the days that followed Sept. 11, 2001, when European Muslims were asked if terrorism was justified, 47% of them said YES, and over 50% of Mid-East Muslims said attacks were justified? Look at the Arab world today. That's what's coming here if we don't put a stop to the Islamic immigration of America.

Seems to me that Islamic terrorism like 911 hasn't struck close enough to you. Maybe if your family or neighbors would get bombed during a marathon, or maybe if they would fly jet liners into skyscrapers in your back yard, or maybe if the would cut the head off of members of your family like they did James Foley and Steven Sotloff, both with NH ties, you would change your mind. Hey, if you find Islam as a beautiful religion, and the evil Koran an awesome holy book, maybe you can invite Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi over for dinner.

Do you want to see the video of them being beheaded?

There are 1.7 billion beautiful Muslim innocent everyday Muslims in the world who have done no wrong, committed no crime towards us and live their lives just like we do and all they want is to live in peace with us. They are mostly good and upright people because that is what Muhammad and the Quran teaches them.

I am a Baha'i. We have suffered persecution in Iran for over 170 years so I know more than most the nature of fanatics.

Had they obeyed the Quran we would be a free people because the Quran teaches no compulsion in religion which means freedom of worship which they do not give us Baha'is.

So it is disobedience to the Quran and Muhammad by some extremists that are causing this problem, not as some wrongfully imagine to be inherent violence in the Quran and Islam.

Quran Sura 2:190 forbids premeditated attacks on anyone and rules out unequivocally all forms of terrorism. If they do not obey their own Quran and commit an atrocity it is not the fault of the Quran.

Muslims are even commanded in the Quran to return goodness for evil

[23:96] Therefore, counter their evil works with goodness;

Again look at what the Quran is saying about pre meditated attacks. It is absolutely forbidden. The terrorists are not obeying their own Quran as it forbids premeditated murder. Muslims are a good people and peaceful and well wishers of humanity. The terrorists are not. They are evil and deranged. They are only Muslim in name but the Quran is opposed to what they do.

2:190 And fight for the cause of God against those who fight against you: but commit not the injustice of attacking them first: God loveth not such injustice:

J M Rodwell


2:190 Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love aggressors.

N J Dawood


2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
There is blood shed every hour in Islam. It has a continual 1,400 year history of blood shed whereas other religions have snapped out of it.

Muslims are Adherents to the evil religion of Islam. Are you serious??? What abominations of the earth am I talking about???
There's not enough memory on your computer to contain it all!

Flying planes into skyscrapers. Running over people with vehicles. butchering people with butcher knives. Lining people up on a beach and beheading them. Cutting peoples eyes and tongues out. Cutting hands and feet off. Burning them alive. Mass shootings and beheadings even by teenagers and the public is forced to watch. Blowing up a baby in a training video while the mother who wouldn't convert was forced to watched. Having children behead people and having people behead children. Sending two disabled women into a pet store with a bomb laden birdcage and remotely detonating it. Going into nightclubs and cafe's and shooting people with automatic weapons. Going into schools and hospitals and killing hundreds of Children. (Russia) Wrapping women up in a sheet, burying them up to their waist, and stoning them. These are just a few of the abominations from memory...

Muslim women are treated as second-class citizens in Islam. ONE example...
The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) says hundreds of women were killed in so-called honor killings in the country last year. In its annual report, the HRCP said 913 girls and women, including 99 minors, were killed in 2012.

The report said 604 were killed after being accused of having illicit relations with men.

Around 191 were reported slain for marrying their own choice of husbands and going against their families' wishes. Honor killings are illegal in Pakistan, but such killings are still carried out in remote tribal areas. The number of honor killings in Pakistan usually ranges between 600 and 900 each year.

In Kolkata India on December 7 another killing in the name of "honor" and there has been a surge in such attacks over the past several months.

Nilofar Bibi, 22, was only 14 years old when she left home in an arranged marriage. Alleging torture carried out by her in-laws, Bibi returned to her parents on November 28, but vanished days later.

Her brother, Mehtab Alam, 29, had discovered his sister was living with an old boyfriend, Firoz, an auto-rickshaw driver. Alam stormed into the home and dragged Bibi onto the street in broad daylight.

Passers-by looked on in horror as he cut off Bibi's head while saying "she had sinned and had to be punished".

Alam left his sister's body in a pool of blood on the road, and calmly walked to the police station, her head in hand, to surrender himself. The siblings' family expressed support for Alam, saying they were proud he upheld their honor.

And your basis for saying that this is what Islaam teaches?
 

The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
I'll tell you what. You show me how many people Christians murdered in the name of their God in the last 100 years, and I'll show you how many people Muslims murdered in the last hundred years. You're on!

Why the last 100 years? Why not the last 1000?
 
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