What is wrong with Islam?

[loverofhumanity]

I am not a Muslim but again I wish to stress that they are a beautiful, peaceful people with a wonderful religion.

It is wrong and unjust to attribute to innocent people, 1.7 billion, what some maybe 50,000 fanatics are doing.

The Quran teaches non violence. Quran Sura 2:190 makes it very clear that only self defence is permitted and these terrorists go against the Quran by engaging in hostilities.

Sure 2:190 I have included different translators so the interpretation should be abundantly clear to the fair minded.

2: 190 And fight for the religion of GOD against those who fight against you; but transgress not by attacking them first, for GOD loveth not the transgressors.

George Sale

2:190 And fight for the cause of God against those who fight against you: but commit not the injustice of attacking them first: God loveth not such injustice:

J M Rodwell

2:190 Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors.

Marmaduke Pickthall

Returning good for evil

[23:96] Therefore, counter their evil works with goodness; we are fully aware of their claims.

 

[sovietchild]

Even if what you say about Hitler is 'completely true, which it isn't, he didn't do anything in the name of his God.

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He is generally believed to have been skeptical of religion, but opportunistic and shrewdly aware of its influence on politics. Raised by an anti-clerical father and practicing Catholic mother, Hitler was baptized and confirmed in the Roman Catholic Church as a boy, but became hostile to Catholicism in adulthood.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=was hitler religious

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q/

 

[icehorse]

the 200-300 million murders is going without response...

 

[kaoticprofit]

If they had them, they probably would have used them by now.

No. Sept 11 was in the planning for 15 years. Muslims are very patient and after detonating one or two, they are going to use some of these nukes as a threat to gain leverage to get the USA to impose Sharia law.

 

[kaoticprofit]

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/08/23/list-of-hitler-quotes-he-was-q/

So what's your purpose in this SC. Are you trying to appease Muslims by saying Hitler was a religious man bent on killing people in the name of God? Sorry, it won't work because it's not true..Mein Kampf was written in 1925. He had plenty of time to reform himself into the monster her was. Besides that Nazism wasn't a religious entity. Try again!

 

[loverofhumanity]

What you fail to see is what MOST people fail to see. Islamic terrorist are adherents to a religion of 1.7 billion people who are bent on world domination through demographics and violence. Yes there are too many murders in the USA, but they are NOT members of a religion FULL of evil idealism. They're mentioned right here...terrorism, violence, world domination, Islamic form of worship, foreign fighters...

Habakkuk 1:5 Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you. For, lo, I raise up the Chaldean's, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwelling places that are not theirs. They are terrible and dreadful: their judgment and their dignity shall proceed of themselves. Their horses also are swifter than the leopards, and are more fierce than the evening wolves: and their horsemen shall spread themselves, and their horsemen shall come from far; they shall fly as the eagle that hasteth to eat. They shall come all for violence: their faces shall sup up as the east wind, and they shall gather the captivity as the sand.

The koran contains over 100 verses promoting violence.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

Political correctness is a poison the world can do without. Racial profiling is necessary to preserve the planet.

I can only see 1.7 beautiful human beings with a wonderful religion and language and awesome Holy Book.

The imperfect eye beholds imperfections. Muslims all over the world are loving, kind, hospitable and a magnanimous people.

They are good and pure because they follow the Quran and Muhammad and believe in God as well as Jesus.

 

[Notanumber]

Christianity doesn't exactly have a great history on this score, though.

Islam is the only so called religion that is a current and present danger to western society.

 

[Notanumber]

So what's your purpose in this SC. Are you trying to appease Muslims by saying Hitler was a religious man bent on killing people in the name of God? Sorry, it won't work because it's not true..Mein Kampf was written in 1925. He had plenty of time to reform himself into the monster her was. Besides that Nazism wasn't a religious entity. Try again!

It would not surprise me if Hitler got some of his ideas from the Quran and Muhammad.

 

[interminable]

It would not surprise me if Hitler got some of his ideas from the Quran and Muhammad.

For the sake of everything that is important to u read the quran first then talk about its content

 

[Notanumber]

For the sake of everything that is important to u read the quran first then talk about its content

I said that based on what I have read about the Quran and Muhammad and this backs up my theory - http://inthenameofallah.org/Quran & Mein Kampf.html

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

It is not of the same magnitude.

Magnitude? A few thousand in one blow or millions individually ...

Welcome to the American Hiroshima!

The irony of this statement boggles my mind.

What can we as the USA do to make things better in the middle east as far as environmental concerns the weather the water and anything else?

In all honesty, it's probably best to do nothing and let them work this out, even though they've had thousands of years to chillax. The US has stuck its nose into so much crap that we will take millennia to fix our bad PR problems.

There were 56 attacks in 14 countries, 5 of them suicide blast, with 446 people killed and 456 people injured. This you your religion of peace. The atrocity of the week. Iraq - 100 Dead Shiite Pilgrims. These are your loving and peaceful people of Islam. If you want to see other Recent "Misunderstandings of Islam" go here....

So, 56 attacks out of millions of people ... yep, I can see how it's Islam as a WHOLE that's the problem

Islamic terrorist are adherents to a religion of 1.7 billion people who are bent on world domination through demographics and violence.

Christianity bragged from very early on it wanted to take over the entire world.

Yes there are too many murders in the USA, but they are NOT members of a religion FULL of evil idealism.

Yes, they are, from here

According to statistics from the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Christians make up almost 80 percent of the prison population. Atheists make up about 0.2 percent. [...] It is safe to conclude that the godless do not fill prisons. Published studies do indicate that a child's risk of sexual abuse by a family member increases as the family's religious denomination becomes more conservative, that is, when the teachings of scriptures and other doctrines are taken more literally. Similarly, the probability of wife abuse increases with the rigidity of a church's teachings pertaining to gender roles and hierarchy. [...] Even observers from the Christian side have expressed dismay that the current dominance of evangelical Christianity in America has not translated into a strengthening of the nation's moral character or the characters of evangelical Christians themselves.

80 percent of US criminals in prison are CHRISTIAN, not Muslim.

Let that sink in for a bit.

I mean, Jesus failed to teach YOU empathy towards the "other", so I guess it shouldn't be such a shock he failed to teach lots of other people as well.

Islam is the only so called religion that is a current and present danger to western society.

Islam will have to take a back seat to the KKK's return to prominence in official governing come January.

 

[LuisDantas]

It would not surprise me if Hitler got some of his ideas from the Quran and Muhammad.

With the enthusiastic support of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, no less.

 

[kaoticprofit]

I can only see 1.7 beautiful human beings with a wonderful religion and language and awesome Holy Book.

The imperfect eye beholds imperfections. Muslims all over the world are loving, kind, hospitable and a magnanimous people.

They are good and pure because they follow the Quran and Muhammad and believe in God as well as Jesus.

Is that why in the days that followed Sept. 11, 2001, when European Muslims were asked if terrorism was justified, 47% of them said YES, and over 50% of Mid-East Muslims said attacks were justified? Look at the Arab world today. That's what's coming here if we don't put a stop to the Islamic immigration of America.

Seems to me that Islamic terrorism like 911 hasn't struck close enough to you. Maybe if your family or neighbors would get bombed during a marathon, or maybe if they would fly jet liners into skyscrapers in your back yard, or maybe if the would cut the head off of members of your family like they did James Foley and Steven Sotloff, both with NH ties, you would change your mind. Hey, if you find Islam as a beautiful religion, and the evil Koran an awesome holy book, maybe you can invite Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi over for dinner.

Do you want to see the video of them being beheaded?

 

[kaoticprofit]

It would not surprise me if Hitler got some of his ideas from the Quran and Muhammad.

I don't think it really matters. God and religion wasn't what motivated him.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Seems to me that Islamic terrorism like 911 hasn't struck close enough to you. Maybe if your family or neighbors would get bombed during a marathon

Before he died, one of my great uncles made sure to put white crosses on his yard. He didn't burn them, but given his language in front of minorities, the intent was rather unambiguous.

I went to a private Christian school from kindergarten to part of 2nd grade. I was routinely bullied and there were sociopathic kids who stomped on a bird's nest (humorously, getting their comeuppance when the mother attacked them). They weren't Muslim.

I've been sexually harrassed ... by the typical rednecks. They aren't Muslim.

Some members of my ancestry were forced to march from the East Coast to Oklahoma in terrible weather where a majority of them died. Muslims did not do this to them.

I had a suicidal gay friend from the internet who wanted to end his life because his family disowned him years ago and he kept getting kicked out of jobs due to homophobia. Muslims didn't do this to him. I helped him out and as far as I'm aware, he's still alive.

Maybe Christian violence, harassment, and outright terrorism just doesn't hit close to home enough for you. May it never. It must be frustrating to all hell not to be able to avenge the death of your friend because all the ones who were literally responsible for it died in the attacks. That being said, though, Jesus isn't gonna be impressed with you wanting the innocent to suffer just because you're bitter.

 

[LuisDantas]

I don't think it really matters. God and religion wasn't what motivated him.

That is hardly established.

In fact, there is considerable evidence to the contrary. Hitler has been known to state that he believed his surviving World War I was a sign that he was meant for bigger designs.

 

[interminable]

Is that why in the days that followed Sept. 11, 2001, when European Muslims were asked if terrorism was justified, 47% of them said YES, and over 50% of Mid-East Muslims said attacks were justified? Look at the Arab world today. That's what's coming here if we don't put a stop to the Islamic immigration of America.

Seems to me that Islamic terrorism like 911 hasn't struck close enough to you. Maybe if your family or neighbors would get bombed during a marathon, or maybe if they would fly jet liners into skyscrapers in your back yard, or maybe if the would cut the head off of members of your family like they did James Foley and Steven Sotloff, both with NH ties, you would change your mind. Hey, if you find Islam as a beautiful religion, and the evil Koran an awesome holy book, maybe you can invite Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi over for dinner.

Do you want to see the video of them being beheaded?

I like to know your opinion about the collapse of building 7 on 911
How did it happen?
Evidences show that nothing hit this building except for some fire

A big question is why it collapsed????

 

[kaoticprofit]

Kelly said,

So, 56 attacks out of millions of people ... yep, I can see how it's Islam as a WHOLE that's the problem.

56 attacks in ONE week! How many attacks did Christians commit in that same week? Any?

How about the number of attacks in October...

There were 254 attacks in 29 countries, 41 of them suicide blast, with 2,449 people killed and 3,380 people injured. If you were among those numbers you wouldn't be around to post any of your misleading replies.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

Christianity bragged from very early on it wanted to take over the entire world.

No it didn't. It wanted to preach the gospel throughout the world and the imperial factions of Rome tried to stop it. Even if it was motivated to dominate the world, for some reason they're not bent on it today, and they aren't killing people by the millions TODAY to accomplish any such goals. Are you watching early century news somehow? You're living in the past. Islam has murdered over 250 million people since it began. And I doubt you know anything about how Islam began. So let me be of a little help...

Muhammad began his evil religion after a supposed visit from the angel Gabriel and hearing voices in his head. After about 15 years he only had about 100 followers. Then he started converting by the sword. Before he died in his early 60's, he tried to take out the city of Mecca three times before he finally accomplished it. After he died AND 100 YEARS AFTER MOHAMMEDANISM BEGAN, THE RELIGION MILITARIZED ENOUGH TO ALMOST TAKE OUT ALL OF EUROPE. Had it not been for Charles Martel, all of Europe would likely have fallen into the hands of the Muhammadans and Christianity nearly completely blotted out.

Want to hear a bit more about Islams wonderful MURDEROUS history....WHICH HAS NEVER STOPPED!

80 percent of US criminals in prison are CHRISTIAN, not Muslim.

Your stats are fabricated so but let me clarify.
1. About 65% of people in US prisons have Protestant or Catholic backgrounds.
2. Most of them are not devoted practicing Christians but were born into a Christian family.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/234653/religious-affiliation-of-us-prisoners/

Let that sink in for a bit.

False fabricated information only sinks into people who are misled.

3. Most people who convert to Islam in America are converted in prison, (or converted through marriage). 80% of them came from former Christian backgrounds. And 80% of that 80% are African Americans.

I mean, Jesus failed to teach YOU empathy towards the "other", so I guess it shouldn't be such a shock he failed to teach lots of other people as well.

I have no empathy for the adherents of a religion bent on killing people.

 

[kaoticprofit]

I like to know your opinion about the collapse of building 7 on 911
How did it happen?
Evidences show that nothing hit this building except for some fire

A big question is why it collapsed????

I was near the towers just days before Muslims flew jet liners into the towers. If you want to believe anything other than the truth have at it. I could care less if people believe in conspiracy theories or people who disregard such simple truths.

Hey the earth is flat and we never landed on the moon. OH! And because the moon appears to be the same size as the sun they are equal distances from earth!

I'll no longer respond to replies from people who are misled to the degree you are. It's only going to go bad.

 

[Notanumber]

I went to a private Christian school from kindergarten to part of 2nd grade. I was routinely bullied and there were sociopathic kids who stomped on a bird's nest (humorously, getting their comeuppance when the mother attacked them). They weren't Muslim.

I've been sexually harrassed ... by the typical rednecks. They aren't Muslim.

Some members of my ancestry were forced to march from the East Coast to Oklahoma in terrible weather where a majority of them died. Muslims did not do this to them.

I had a suicidal gay friend from the internet who wanted to end his life because his family disowned him years ago and he kept getting kicked out of jobs due to homophobia. Muslims didn't do this to him.

That sounds like the good old days compared to what is coming.