What is wrong with Islam?

[Notanumber]

I think you are not islamophobic you have islamizophrenia
You are not just scared of Islam you make it obsession and you hallucinate.

At least you Americans still have your Second Amendment.

Thank your lucky stars that you elected Donald Trump.

 

[idav]

At least you Americans still have your Second Amendment.

Thank your lucky stars that you elected Donald Trump.

Lucky for us we still have the first amendment where people might not be scared of being sued for truth.

 

[Sunstone]

Thank your lucky stars that you elected Donald Trump.

If you like him so much, you can have him. Just trying to share our blessings with you.

 

[Notanumber]

Is Islam the new worldwide version of the Ku Klux Klan but on a massive scale?

It is possible that the Klan got some of their ideas from Islam; their instruction book was even named the Kloran.

 

[Sunstone]

...Kloran.

Is that a brand of laundry detergent?

 

[Notanumber]

If you like him so much, you can have him. Just trying to share our blessings with you.

I am thankful that we have got him as our next leader of what remains of the free world. Thanks.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Thank your lucky stars that you elected Donald Trump.

Why? So his Conservative entourage can threaten minority rights, public education, and healthcare?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Christianity shows a potential vulnerability to many of the self-inflicted maladies that Islaam embraces

Potential? Paul forbids women from even speaking in church, a woman on her period is considered unclean, a great many things are punishable by death, and it's just as "my way or else."

Even a little bit of awareness and intellectual honesty shows that there are very significant differences in the shortcomings and dangers between Christianity and Islaam in the last century or so. One would have to go back at least a few centuries before a reasonable argument to the contrary could at least be attempted.

We killed our god. They have yet to. Muslims are instructed to read the Bible, and the Bible has more accounts of violence than the Quran does. The Quran says to fight until the world is Muslim, the Bible says to slay those who don't want "the King" to reign over them. I truly do not see how either one is any better or worse than the other.

 

[Kirran]

Is Islam the new worldwide version of the Ku Klux Klan but on a massive scale?

It is possible that the Klan got some of their ideas from Islam; their instruction book was even named the Kloran.

When you cite Britain First to support your argument, you lose a lot of credibility.

That video is about a march by politico-radical Islamists, this doesn't define Islam anymore than going to some evangelical Christian convention will let you define Christianity.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

At least you Americans still have your Second Amendment.

Thank your lucky stars that you elected Donald Trump.

I have a real problem with that video. It cites the Daily Mail and Breitbart for starters; two media outlets which are infamous for talking only in half-truths and are bastions for white supremacists. Secondly, it doesn't actually use many statistics; the video spends most of its time repeating itself. The few occasions it does use statistics, they are dated. I've tried looking for statistics that corroborate the claim that Sweden is the 2nd rapiest country in the world - the only stats (link 1, link 2) I can find to prove that are from 2011 & 2012 - before the Syrian refugee crisis began. Since then, Sweden has dropped to 6th in the list of countries with the largest amounts of rape according to stats gathered in 2015. Further, the claim that Austrians are flocking to buy guns, that most of the buyers are women, and that their motive is they fear rape (why would you buy a long barrel for carrying in the street?) is not supported - it's just made.

 

[Kirran]

I have a real problem with that video. It cites the Daily Mail and Breitbart for starters; two media outlets which are infamous for talking only in half-truths and are bastions for white supremacists. Secondly, it doesn't actually use many statistics; the video spends most of its time repeating itself. The few occasions it does use statistics, they are dated. I've tried looking for statistics that corroborate the claim that Sweden is the 2nd rapiest country in the world - the only stats (link 1, link 2) I can find to prove that are from 2011 & 2012 - before the Syrian refugee crisis began. Since then, Sweden has dropped to 6th in the list of countries with the largest amounts of rape according to stats gathered in 2015. Further, the claim that Austrians are flocking to buy guns, that most of the buyers are women, and that their motive is they fear rape (why would you buy a long barrel for carrying in the street?) is not supported - it's just made.

Furthermore, on the rape statistics thing, many countries do not criminalise domestic rape, and a great many countries will have awful levels of reporting and conviction. Countries which are very good at apprehending and convicting rapists are likely to have higher rape statistics, although the actual number of rapes is likely lower than a country that's bad at it.

 

[Notanumber]

I have a real problem with that video. It cites the Daily Mail and Breitbart for starters; two media outlets which are infamous for talking only in half-truths and are bastions for white supremacists. Secondly, it doesn't actually use many statistics; the video spends most of its time repeating itself. The few occasions it does use statistics, they are dated. I've tried looking for statistics that corroborate the claim that Sweden is the 2nd rapiest country in the world - the only stats (link 1, link 2) I can find to prove that are from 2011 & 2012 - before the Syrian refugee crisis began. Since then, Sweden has dropped to 6th in the list of countries with the largest amounts of rape according to stats gathered in 2015. Further, the claim that Austrians are flocking to buy guns, that most of the buyers are women, and that their motive is they fear rape (why would you buy a long barrel for carrying in the street?) is not supported - it's just made.

Are these better sources?

Refugee crisis: Chaos as Hungary seals border - CNN.com

Austria feuds with Germany, reports gun sale surge amid refugee crisis

Wheelchair-bound woman raped by refugees at Sweden asylum center, police say

I had not realised that the USA was already afflicted to this extent.

Was this reported by the mainstream media?

MUSLIMS ATTACK CHRISTIANS IN AMERICA OVER SHARIA LAW AND CHRISTIANS WIN LAWSUIT!

 

[sovietchild]

Revenge and loots.

Revenge, because of the merchants were Meccans. There was no war between Meccans and Muslims.

But if they were at war, Muhammad raided civilians, not the military. One of the last raids resulted in the death in death of a guard, and though he didn't kill this guard himself, he was the leader of a bunch armed looters.

But it wasn't war. So Muhammad and his Muslim raiders were nothing more than robbers, brigands or pirates.

And Mecca wasn't at war with Muslims until began these raids, that eventually led to battle of Badr (624). So essentially this wasn't a defensive war or self defence, but aggressive and provocative action. Muhammad is not a peacemaker, but a warmonger.

Loots or plunders were to buy more weapons.

I understand that Muslims who followed Muhammad in exile, lost their properties and wealth. But robbing caravans are wrong, because it is stealing.

Why does Islam say it is a crime or sin, to steal, but it is okay for Muslims to do so, when Muhammad is in charge of robbing merchants? That's not only double-standard, where the rule or law don't seem to apply to him, it also demonstrate to me that Muhammad is a hypocrite.

And in each of these raids, the rule of taking only a fifth of spoil were never enforced, which again, make your prophet a hypocrite.

Stealing is wrong, even if it is done in revenge. Revenge is not justice, it is a selfish act.

Muhammad found a new home in Medina. He could have live out his life in Medina, without robbing merchants, without war. The Meccans would have left him alone. But Muhammad couldn't leave it alone, so Muhammad had initiated this war with those raids.

Sorry, but I couldn't follow a religion where the founder of Islam, go out with his men, robbing people.

What was Muhammad known for before he got exiled from Mecca?

 

[Notanumber]

What was Muhammad known for before he got exiled from Mecca?

Most everyone agrees that after thirteen years of preaching his new religion, Muhammad did not have very much success and was forced to flee Mecca with his 150 followers. There he formed an army and returned eight years later to conquer the city that rejected him.

With their own religion violently destroyed, most Meccans had no choice but to outwardly "embrace" the very religion they had adamantly rejected for the twenty-one years prior to having a sword at their throat. To say that this was heartfelt (as some contemporary apologists do) stretches the limits of credulity.

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." (Quran 9:5)

Those who remained in the once tolerant city of Mecca lived under a draconian theocracy in which an outward display of religion was required by Muhammad as a test of personal loyalty. Those who refused to comply were literally burned alive:

To this day, Muslims are still at each others throats and there is no Islamic country in the world that truly allows other religions to preach openly and recruit converts as Muhammad was allowed to do in Mecca. In stark contrast to its pre-Islamic history, this city now holds the honor as being the most religiously intolerant city on earth, as non-Muslims are not even allowed to visit... and there is not a single Muslim voice of protest.

Myth: Muhammad Made Mecca a More Tolerant City

 

[Notanumber]

They say that time is a healer, but is all this going to get any better or worse with time?

Poland is also concerned that there might be a Russian invasion, but I wonder if that is their biggest threat.

 

[Notanumber]

These are the Muslims that I feel sorry for. There must be many that fled Islamic countries to seek asylum in what they thought was a free country at the time, but now discover that the oppressive regime has followed and caught up with them.

These good people have had to leave Yorkshire for their own safety, but how long before they have to leave Britain.

Muslim thugs force a father who converted from Islam to Christianity to flee home | Daily Mail Online

 

[sovietchild]

Most everyone agrees that after thirteen years of preaching his new religion, Muhammad did not have very much success and was forced to flee Mecca with his 150 followers. There he formed an army and returned eight years later to conquer the city that rejected him.

With their own religion violently destroyed, most Meccans had no choice but to outwardly "embrace" the very religion they had adamantly rejected for the twenty-one years prior to having a sword at their throat. To say that this was heartfelt (as some contemporary apologists do) stretches the limits of credulity.

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them." (Quran 9:5)

Those who remained in the once tolerant city of Mecca lived under a draconian theocracy in which an outward display of religion was required by Muhammad as a test of personal loyalty. Those who refused to comply were literally burned alive:

To this day, Muslims are still at each others throats and there is no Islamic country in the world that truly allows other religions to preach openly and recruit converts as Muhammad was allowed to do in Mecca. In stark contrast to its pre-Islamic history, this city now holds the honor as being the most religiously intolerant city on earth, as non-Muslims are not even allowed to visit... and there is not a single Muslim voice of protest.

Myth: Muhammad Made Mecca a More Tolerant City

@gnostic and @Notanumber What was Muhammad known for before he started to preach a religion?

 

[Rival]

@gnostic and @Notanumber What was Muhammad known for before he started to preach a religion?

Honesty.

 

[Notanumber]

@gnostic and @Notanumber What was Muhammad known for before he started to preach a religion?

Does it matter?

What does matter is what he is known for in this day and age.

This website has a wealth of information for those that have enquiring minds that seek the truth.

Islam: The Politically Incorrect Truth

 

[sovietchild]

These are the Muslims that I feel sorry for. There must be many that fled Islamic countries to seek asylum in what they thought was a free country at the time, but now discover that the oppressive regime has followed and caught up with them.

These good people have had to leave Yorkshire for their own safety, but how long before they have to leave Britain.

Muslim thugs force a father who converted from Islam to Christianity to flee home | Daily Mail Online

Do you want to talk about thugs and which religion they usually follow?