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What is Wrong With Jews Who Repeatedly Post the Most Hateful Propaganda Towards Muslims?

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Israel already has jurisdiction over that land. It's like saying Australia kept taking land away from Aborigines, when in reality it took it all at the start and just kept pushing them around on it.


If they didn't settle, (pushing out those already there) then a fair proportion of the trouble would go away.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
No they weren't, dude.

Hmmm. Okay, what slice of time prior to the end of WWI are you using as your basis for disagreeing? Their are many maps prior to WWI that show "Palestinians" living in Israel, Jordan and Egypt.
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
As has Israel, it works both ways.

Not when your argument is hinging on Hamas' and not Israel's past record of not maintaining ceasefires it pledged to keep, it doesn't. Claiming that Israel has broken ceasefires too doesn't counter or defeat the point that Hamas has done so and is merely an attempt to deflect.
 
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Kirran

Premium Member

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Well OK, sure, the term Palestine is used on maps and such to refer to these areas. The British Mandate for Palestine covered Transjordan (now Jordan) too. But the group now calling themselves Palestinians doesn't have any kind of historic homeland there like they do in Palestine and Israel.

I'm curious to know how you would come to that conclusion? To me, a whole bunch of tribes (including Jews), have been wandering around that region for thousands of years. It seems to me quite arbitrary to say "well as of 1918" or any other date...
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Hamas is dedicated to the total destruction of Israel. We have it in writing.
Israel is NOT dedicated to the destruction of anyone.
I feel and I know where they coming from.
Hamas is consider Israel as oppression,racist,some facts on ground tells isreal is evil regime not just in eyes of Hamas.

You talking about destruction!!
BTW Hamas/Is real wars shows Is real destructed thousand of homes in Gaza, how about that ?

Its hard to teach humanitarian and justice to biased people like you.
 
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icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
I feel and I know where they coming from.
Hamas is consider Israel as oppression,racist,some facts on ground tells isreal is evil regime not just in eyes of Hamas.

You talking about destruction!!
BTW Hamas/Is real wars shows Is real destructed thousand of homes in Gaza, how about that ?

Its hard to teach humanitarian and justice to biased people like you.

Hey Godo,

Why do you think Egypt and Jordan treat Palestinians so badly?
 

Kirran

Premium Member
I'm curious to know how you would come to that conclusion? To me, a whole bunch of tribes (including Jews), have been wandering around that region for thousands of years. It seems to me quite arbitrary to say "well as of 1918" or any other date...

The ethnogenesis of the Palestinian people is a mid-20th Century phenomenon, so it only makes sense to look at where the group and its immediate preceding generations were coming from. Also, Jerusalem is seen by Palestinians as the core of their nation's forebears going back a long way, and that of course is smack in the middle of Israel-Palestine.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
This really needs to move to a new thread and get away from what Wizanda was saying.
It just proves the point tho, like on the thread 'how can we prevent WW3', where the Christians and Jews were saying it is a good thing that needs to happen, as we will have peace after...

Or on this thread where it is saying about not taking sides, as we're escalating the conflict; so lots of people spend most of the thread taking sides. o_O
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Yeah derail the run away train asking for peace, and ram it into Jerusalem; far more constructive. :confused:

Peace would be great. And I have no doubt it'll come in time. But it won't be through ignoring the genuine problems afflicting both sides of the conflict.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
But it won't be through ignoring the genuine problems afflicting both sides of the conflict.
Repeating the issues on both sides, doesn't appear to be making everyone become more peaceful...

Aware of what is going on, and watched lots of documentaries on it all... Yet even the documentaries often cause resentment at the mistreatment of people.

What is needed is a new methodology, not continue doing the same thing that causes resentment; we need to find ways to start bridging the gap, build Oneness among everyone.

Everyone digging out the gap on either side, slowly makes it there is no way to build a bridge, as the distance gets wider. :innocent:
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
It just proves the point tho, like on the thread 'how can we prevent WW3', where the Christians and Jews were saying it is a good thing that needs to happen, as we will have peace after...

Or on this thread where it is saying about not taking sides, as we're escalating the conflict; so lots of people spend most of the thread taking sides. o_O

Hey, I'm an anti-theist! I'd say that if Christians, Muslims and Jews would walk away from their "holy" books this situation would be resolved in an instant. :)
 
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