You think that parents are "unknowable" to their children?
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What is your belief in regards to God?
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allfoak
Alchemist
Their is an intimate relationship but it is limited by our inability to know the mind of anyone completely.
A child cannot know the mind of an adult.
One day we will be able to converse with God on the level of gods in the same way that we grow older and we are able to converse with our parents on the level of an adult, but never can we ever know God completely.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Samadhi is meditative absorption, a state of full awareness and one-pointedness of mind. It might make sense to refer to it as "pure consciousness", but I don't see how it makes sense to refer to it as unconsciousness.
Wait... so God isn't so much "unknown" as "not fully known"?
This seems a bit self-aggrandizing.
allfoak
Alchemist
No more than it is to say that i will grow up and become an adult.
I am a pagan Viking girl who got time tunneled into the future.
I believe in Thor because I believe He is the only explanation for the mystery of lightnings.
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- viole
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Sure it is.
Since you didn't dispute the other half of my quote, I take it you agree: the sort of god you suggest isn't so much "the unknowable source" as it is "the somewhat knowable source"... right?
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
Parents are detectable; God isn't. It'd be like saying that one day we'll be able to ride on unicorns just like one day a child will be able to drive a car.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
"Agnosticism" is not mutually exclusive to atheism or theism. "Agnosticism" is the belief that knowledge of God is not possible. "Ignosticism" is the belief that God is not defined well-enough as a concept to be discussed rationally.
I am an agnostic theist because I believe in God, but I don't think that knowledge of God's existence is possible in this life. That is why I believe in God's existence, but I don't know whether God exists.
HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Belief isn’t a choice. Life would be a lot easier if it was.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I would look up the term before making claims like that. Agnosticism is the belief that knowledge of God's existence or nature is not possible. This in no way precludes someone from believing that God exists. Thus, there are many agnostic theists and atheists alike.
"Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims – especially metaphysical and religious claims such as whether God, the divine or the supernatural exist – are unknown and perhaps unknowable."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
If you believe, you know. I have told you this before.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
You can't be an atheist then.
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
This is blatantly false. I can believe that my grass on went to school this morning, but I don't absolutely know it. Duh.
Belief and knowledge are two different things. It's why stuntmen get hurt sometimes.
prometheus11
Well-Known Member
People are compelled to believe as they do. You can choose to brainwash yourself and carry it out and "decide" to change a belief.
jonathan180iq
Well-Known Member
Except that you have not a single example of people growing up to become gods... And there are billions of examples of babies growing up to become parents.
If I replaced your entire argument with the character of a Magic Dragon instead of God, would it still make sense?
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Belief is not knowledge. I've told YOU this before.
Robert.Evans
You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Belief is knowledge, as it comes from God, and God is knowledge. I 'might' have told you that before.Belief is not knowledge. I've told YOU this before.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Life is my "object" of worship. I live it. God is not a term I would use but Im around mostly christians.
Without the word god, life still exists.
Entities, no: thats why Im an atheist not because of terminology but because I dont believe entities (actual gods not concepts of metaphors of them) exist.
REFRESH
Why the statement? Atheism is just part of my worldview: life without gods.
Nothing special.