What"s with all the secrecy???

[Yanni]

If a god were to make it's existence known to mankind, you wouldn't have a choice, especially if it's the Creator-god. You would know that it exists and you would be expected to worship. To not do so would be denying it's divinity, and that would hurt its fragile ego (Greco-roman mythology is a prime example of big gods with fragile egos), then they'd have to kill you.
It would been like you having a kid, not seeing him for several years, then come back (possibly with gifts and presents) only for your kid to say "You're not my father", which is devastating for any father.

If you're a Christian, then why are you referring to Greco-Roman concepts of gods and their egos? To my understanding, the Abrahamic God does not have an ego; especially when Christians constantly stress that their god is a god of love.

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

Dr. PULICA FRANARU did. now i ask you. who said god is not a sky daddy?




MR. SARUTAM CURU did, now i ask you. who said god is not a particular being? in fact, who said god in an imparticular being?




and i maintain that there are no signs of god anywhere around or within us. we cant help it if youre looking for a bible in a strip club.

Who are Mr. SARUTAM CURU and Dr. PULICA FRANARU, and who gave them any more authority to state these things than the drunk homeless guy down the street?

 

[Willamena]

We make our own "secrecy" by holding onto wrong ideas about the world. Many things are hidden behind walls that we, ourselves, have thrown up "in our heads."

 

[blackout]

We make our own "secrecy" by holding onto wrong ideas about the world. Many things are hidden behind walls that we, ourselves, have thrown up "in our heads."

Well, we do construct our own worlds/realities.
The problem evolves when we don't understand
what we have made, how we constructed it,
or that "it" even exists.

 

[Azekual]

If you're a Christian, then why are you referring to Greco-Roman concepts of gods and their egos? To my understanding, the Abrahamic God does not have an ego; especially when Christians constantly stress that their god is a god of love.

Is there a reason I shouldn't be referring to such "pagan" concepts?
I'm pretty laid back with my faith, and don't take it too seriously. I am comfortable enough in my religion to discuss the abstract concepts of Greco-Roman gods and their egos and not be anal-retentive about it.
I've even gone so far as to study Wicca and other pagan religions in-depth and have developed a large circle of friends involved in the craft.

 

[Azekual]

Well, we do construct our own worlds/realities.
The problem evolves when we don't understand
what we have made, how we constructed it,
or that "it" even exists.

My relativism senses are tingling.

Explain this to me, I want to know more?

 

[blackout]

Is there a reason I shouldn't be referring to such "pagan" concepts?
I'm pretty laid back with my faith, and don't take it too seriously. I am comfortable enough in my religion to discuss the abstract concepts of Greco-Roman gods and their egos and not be anal-retentive about it.
I've even gone so far as to study Wicca and other pagan religions in-depth and have developed a large circle of friends involved in the craft.

IMO, mythologies (ALL mythologies, including the christian one/s)
are only as useful as their Iconology and Mythology sucessfully
points to the transcendent thing which they are signifying.
(by virtue of their "type", "set" and "cast")

 

[Willamena]

Well, we do construct our own worlds/realities.
The problem evolves when we don't understand
what we have made, how we constructed it,
or that "it" even exists.

True. An even bigger problem occurs when we think that we have to understand those things in order to grasp reality --then we've thrown up another wall.

 

[blackout]

My relativism senses are tingling.

Explain this to me, I want to know more?

When our "Subjective/Objective Overlays"
Overlap in ways that are "fixed" to us,
in our minds,
many "Secrets"
(about many things)
are hidden from us.
And we have no idea
that all we need
is a shift in perspective.
(to see "what else" is there)

We can't even imagine
that things are possibly any different
than what we plainly see around us.
We have been tricked by our own illusions/allusions.

 

[Azekual]

IMO, mythologies (ALL mythologies, including the christian one/s)
are only as useful as their Iconology and Mythology sucessfully
points to the transcendent thing which they are signifying.
(by virtue of their "type", "set" and "cast")

Do you come with translation software?

 

[blackout]

True. An even bigger problem occurs when we think that we have to understand those things in order to grasp reality --then we've thrown up another wall.

I was speaking more in practical terms
than metaphysical ones.
But you are right.
It is awareness I was pointing to
more than "understanding".

 

[waitasec]

This reminds me of the sermon series our pastor did a few weeks ago titled "God - Hidden In Plain Sight". I thought it was an interesting title. I looked up "what does hidden in plain sight mean", I knew what it mean I was just curious as to if there was anything "deeper" in it, and I found this:

It means that something is visible to a person but because it blends in with other items or its environment, or because it is not where the person looking for it expects it to be, it is hard to locate.

For example, I was looking in my bookshelves for a book by a particular author. I thought the book had a red cover, so I was looking for a red cover. I was wrong; it had a white cover. I probably glanced at the book 3 or 4 times without recognizing it. It was hidden (meaning I didn't recognize it) in plain sight (it was perfectly visible).

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I wonder how often God has been right before us, perfectly visible, yet we weren't looking for Him or we were simply expecting something else so we miss Him. I was hoping they would have that series online but it doesn't look like they do yet. Interesting thought though, at least to me

tunnel vision...
funny with all the explanations/attributes of god the bible gives us...there are many who think they know god through the bible who seem to be focusing on that while being unaware of what that causes.

i find, when i stop looking for something, most times i end up finding it.

 

[blackout]

Do you come with translation software?

Willamena obviously has it.
Maybe you should ask her.:cover:


hehehe :flirt:

 

[Willamena]

Do you come with translation software?

Sadly, neither do I.

She said (IMO) that we concretize some of our ideas --particularly those about the subject/object divide --so they become a paradigm against which everything has to relate. Things that don't/can't relate get 'shifted' away from the paradigm.

But a shift in paradigm can bring them 'round.

 

[Azekual]

We can't even imagine
that things are possibly any different
than what we plainly see around us.
We have been tricked by our own illusions/allusions.

What if you have a mindset the emphasizes adaptability and fluidity, even going so far as re-adapting to a situation you're already adapted to just because the environment didn't shift like you expected?
(thats more or less my mindset)

 

[Azekual]

Sadly, neither do I.

She said (IMO) that we concretize some of our ideas --particularly those about the subject/object divide --so they become a paradigm against which everything has to relate. Things that don't/can't relate get 'shifted' away from the paradigm.

But a shift in paradigm can bring them 'round.

Good luck applying that to my mindset >.>

 

[blackout]

Do you come with translation software?

Seriously though,
I suggest Joseph Campbell.
(if you want a truly wonderful look at the "Power of Mythology")

 

[blackout]

Sadly, neither do I.

Does that mean we're ACTUALLY speaking the same language? :areyoucra

* Love Ya * :hug:

 

[blackout]

Sadly, neither do I.

She said (IMO) that we concretize some of our ideas --particularly those about the subject/object divide --so they become a paradigm against which everything has to relate. Things that don't/can't relate get 'shifted' away from the paradigm.

But a shift in paradigm can bring them 'round.

I think you may have just said the same thing
in different terms.

I'll get back to this one
when I have more time.
GTGFN. *waves*

 

[Azekual]

Do you come with translation software?

This is the best spur of the moment joke Ive come up with in years ^^
I'm gonna keep this