whats your beef with brexit?

[Notanumber]

It seems some MEP’s do talk sense, but does the EU listen?

 

[Altfish]

That's excellent news #Notanumber; we're all going to be so much better off.

What's the hold up? David Davis said Brexit would be easy

• And why are all the banks (and Rees Mogg's investment companies) moving to EU countries?
• Where's the £35m a week for the NHS?
• How are we going to pick all our crops? I suppose they'll be Asians and African's instead of Eastern Europeans.
• When will Turkey be joining the EU, I suppose they'll be fast tracked in now there's a vacancy

 

[Regiomontanus]

IMO we should be feeling like

Control of our borders.
No more nonsense directives.
Self determination.
New trade deals.

I love Europe but never felt European,been to some amazing places there too,wine women but not so much song (ever seen the euro song contest lol) so I'm glad we're out and feeling positive,not every one is so here's your chance to say why.

Hello. I

My reason for thinking it an unwise move it that it further divides people in an age in which unity has never been more important. Imagine all people of the world united to tackle the threats that we all face? We share the same water, the same air. Suffering and strife in one country spills over into others. Will the world ever be truely united? Probably not (certainly not when large, powerful countries such as the USA have people like Trump as President). Failing in the effort is one thing. Working to reinforce divisions in humanity is another. IMHO, only when we start seeing each others as brothers and sisters not "others" will the world be able to fully heal.

Peace

 

[Notanumber]

That's excellent news #Notanumber; we're all going to be so much better off.

What's the hold up? David Davis said Brexit would be easy

• And why are all the banks (and Rees Mogg's investment companies) moving to EU countries?
• Where's the £35m a week for the NHS?
• How are we going to pick all our crops? I suppose they'll be Asians and African's instead of Eastern Europeans.
• When will Turkey be joining the EU, I suppose they'll be fast tracked in now there's a vacancy

The EU negotiators would rather try to bully the UK and commit financial suicide than accept a good deal for both sides. Just like the remoaning elite in our country.

A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for in the democratic referendum.

This man has the situation weighed up.

 

[ChristineM]

The EU negotiators would rather try to bully the UK and commit financial suicide than accept a good deal for both sides. Just like the remoaning elite in our country.

A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for in the democratic referendum.

This man has the situation weighed up.

So go and stop whining like a hypocrite.

The uk has commitments, service them and do what you
Iike afterwards but consider.

Are you not interested in a market of half a billion people on your doorstep. British business is which is why you need a deal rather than letting xenophobic emotions rule your head.

Seems you are the one willing to commit financial suicide

 

[Altfish]

A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for in the democratic referendum.

It's not what all the Brexit voters I know voted for.

You've ignored all my questions...again.

 

[Flankerl]

The EU negotiators would rather try to bully the UK and commit financial suicide than accept a good deal for both sides. Just like the remoaning elite in our country.

A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for in the democratic referendum.

Brexiters are a fun bunch.
Wasn't that long ago when they wanted their privileges without having to pay for them like for example Norway or Switzerland.

Suddenly they don't want any deal at all. They just want out.


And you don't want a deal that is also good for the EU. You don't want that at all.

 

[England my lionheart]

Hello. I

My reason for thinking it an unwise move it that it further divides people in an age in which unity has never been more important. Imagine all people of the world united to tackle the threats that we all face? We share the same water, the same air. Suffering and strife in one country spills over into others. Will the world ever be truely united? Probably not (certainly not when large, powerful countries such as the USA have people like Trump as President). Failing in the effort is one thing. Working to reinforce divisions in humanity is another. IMHO, only when we start seeing each others as brothers and sisters not "others" will the world be able to fully heal.

Peace

Sounds simple and not impossible but the eu isn't an even playing field, in reality it has an inner and outer ring for want of a better word.

The problem with the eu is that it has nothing to unify it and Imo needs ripping up and start again treatment or some serious reforms applied.

 

[Estro Felino]

Hello. I

My reason for thinking it an unwise move it that it further divides people in an age in which unity has never been more important. Imagine all people of the world united to tackle the threats that we all face? We share the same water, the same air. Suffering and strife in one country spills over into others. Will the world ever be truely united? Probably not (certainly not when large, powerful countries such as the USA have people like Trump as President). Failing in the effort is one thing. Working to reinforce divisions in humanity is another. IMHO, only when we start seeing each others as brothers and sisters not "others" will the world be able to fully heal.

Peace

Europeans are already united by a common awareness...Switzerland and Norway are not in the EU...and still they are European.

Six countries founded the EU: Germany, France, Italy and Benelux. It was supposed to be a Economic Community (EEC) but financial powers and banks took over and started exploiting the economy of the EU countries, and turned into a bankers' super-state.
Just think that Germany (who is the real dictatorial power of this "Union") allowed Soros to speculate on the Br. pound in 1992, causing its devaluation.
Or Germany forced Italy to dismantle its socialist state and divest its public assets because they "allegedly violated the principles of the free market".

So either we change this EU, or exit is the only solution...this stupid game has gone too far.

 

[Notanumber]

It is time we took the gloves off and showed them our British backbone then they will come running to us with their tail between their legs begging for a deal.

We need a new Prime Minister who is not a remainer!

 

[Regiomontanus]

Sounds simple and not impossible but the eu isn't an even playing field, in reality it has an inner and outer ring for want of a better word.

The problem with the eu is that it has nothing to unify it and Imo needs ripping up and start again treatment or some serious reforms applied.

Hello. An unfair distribution of power is a fair point. I have a friend from Greece and, as you can imagine, feels like his homeland has been bullied (which seems to be the case from what I have read of this experiment though Greece is hardly faultless). Yes, tear it up and start again. Do think the majority of Brexit supporters would go for that?

Peace.

 

[England my lionheart]

Hello. An unfair distribution of power is a fair point. I have a friend from Greece and, as you can imagine, feels like his homeland has been bullied (which seems to be the case from what I have read of this experiment though Greece is hardly faultless). Yes, tear it up and start again. Do think the majority of Brexit supporters would go for that?

Peace.

I can only speak for myself but I think that many people and not just in Britain would go for big reforms,its not like the eu is a bowl of contentment as can be seen across europe and because the eu is so sloooow to make any decision discontent will only get worse and yes it is an unfair distribution of power yet no single entity has the power to make a decision,just a bunch of self important or rather impotent beuarocrats.

 

[Altfish]

We need a new Prime Minister who is not a remainer!

Jeremy Corbyn awaits.

 

[Notanumber]

Jeremy Corbyn awaits.

He is damaged goods.

This is calibre of his supporters.

I like the views of these great men regarding Brexit.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

It is time we took the gloves off and showed them our British backbone then they will come running to us with their tail between their legs begging for a deal.

Yep - this is still funny after 2 years of hearing it. What's the plan? Leaving the gloves on until the last week? The last day? The last hour?! Still not got the idea that the UK (which is a net importer) will probably have to renegotiate every one of its existing trade deals from a much weaker position while the EU27 will each have 26+ other trade partners with whom it can trade frictionlessly?

We need a new Prime Minister who is not a remainer!

Good luck finding one who will willingly drink from this poisoned chalice. Maybe you'll get BoJo the 'loveable buffoon' who has been talking with that far-right collaborator Steve Bannon. Continue dragging Westminster politics further and further to the right and keep telling us it's good for us.

He is damaged goods.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

 

[Notanumber]

Iain understands democracy unlike the House of Lords and the EU.

He was elected after all.

 

[Estro Felino]

Brexiters are a fun bunch.
Wasn't that long ago when they wanted their privileges without having to pay for them like for example Norway or Switzerland.

Suddenly they don't want any deal at all. They just want out.


And you don't want a deal that is also good for the EU. You don't want that at all.

Meanwhile some German Diktatorin is already thinking of what to do after Brexit

Spoiler

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for in the democratic referendum.

Your post contains two lies.

1. "A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for" - The referendum question only dealt with our EU membership and you know it; it did not touch on the Single Market nor the Customs Union. Stop trying to revise history;
2. "the democratic referendum" - the referendum was not democratic because entire affected groups were prevented from participating.

Please stop telling lies. It does your side of the argument no favours whatsoever.

 

[Altfish]

Your post contains two lies.

1. "A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for" - The referendum question only dealt with our EU membership and you know it; it did not touch on the Single Market nor the Customs Union. Stop trying to revise history;
2. "the democratic referendum" - the referendum was not democratic because entire affected groups were prevented from participating.

Please stop telling lies. It does your side of the argument no favours whatsoever.

What the Leave side are trying to do now is line themselves up so they can avoid all blame for the recession and chaos that will almost certainly follow Brexit.

You can see the excuses being lined up: -

• We're not getting what we voted for (what did we vote for?)
• It's the EU's fault they are not being fair in the negotiations (It seems to me that they are very fairly representing the rest of the EU)
• We have a Remainer (May) in charge (Forgetting that Davis and Johnson had the key roles until they realised it was harder than they thought and ran away)

 

[Notanumber]

Your post contains two lies.

1. "A no deal WTO exit from the EU would be what we voted for" - The referendum question only dealt with our EU membership and you know it; it did not touch on the Single Market nor the Customs Union. Stop trying to revise history;
2. "the democratic referendum" - the referendum was not democratic because entire affected groups were prevented from participating.

Please stop telling lies. It does your side of the argument no favours whatsoever.

As the Prime Minister said two days before the referendum –

"And remember: they can’t undo the decision we take.

"If we vote out, that’s it.

"It is irreversible.

"We will leave Europe – for good.

The full transcript of David Cameron's last-ditch plea for Britain to stay in the EU

So don’t tell us that we did not know what we were voting for.