When was Yeshua born? Summer/Winter

[Jayhawker Soule]

20111130.0625

Jesus was born on Sivan 10, 3728, a Thursday.

Really? It's now 5772 according to the Hebrew calendar, so 3728 would be roughly 2044 years ago. The current Gregorian year is 2011, so ...

... interesting.

 

[Pegg]

5. In the first month, on the fourteenth of the month, in the afternoon, [you shall sacrifice] the Passover offering to the Lord.
6. And on the fifteenth day of that month is the Festival of Unleavened Cakes to the Lord; you shall eat unleavened cakes for a seven day period.
Lev 23


Just like I said. The pesach offering is brought on the 14th in the afternoon. The 7 day festival begins on the 15th.

and that is exactly what the greek scriptures say too... Jesus was killed by 3pm in the friday afternoon of the 14th day of the month.

He was taken off the torture stake before the passover festival began that evening.

The lamb always symbolized the sacrifice that the messiah would make of himself... and Jesus was the reality of the lamb which was prepared on the 14th day.

 

[peacecrusader888]

Really? It's now 5772 according to the Hebrew calendar, so 3728 would be roughly 2044 years ago. The current Gregorian year is 2011, so ...

... interesting.

20111130.0925

@Jayhawker Soule

That is right. Jesus was born on May 23, 33 BC equivalent to Sivan 10, 3728. Not about 1 BC but 33 BC. And I was able to prove that this revelation of the Holy Spirit is true and correct. That is why I say, from 2 Corinthians 4:13, “I believed, and therefore have I spoken.”

 

[peacecrusader888]

and that is exactly what the greek scriptures say too... Jesus was killed by 3pm in the friday afternoon of the 14th day of the month.

He was taken off the torture stake before the passover festival began that evening.

The lamb always symbolized the sacrifice that the messiah would make of himself... and Jesus was the reality of the lamb which was prepared on the 14th day.

20111130.0935

@Pegg

This is not about the birth of Jesus but I will comment what you said.

Jesus did not die at 3pm. He died at exactly 12 noon.

He was not crucified on a “Friday afternoon of the 14th day of the month” but on a Thursday on the 30th day of Av in the year 3760 AM. It is equivalent to August 17. The Holy Spirit revealed this date which I first heard in 1983 from old listeners. I was able to prove it to be true and correct in my studies from 1999 to 2003. Do you know the year? It was 1 BC.

 

[outhouse]

20111130.0935

@Pegg

This is not about the birth of Jesus but I will comment what you said.

Jesus did not die at 3pm. He died at exactly 12 noon.

He was not crucified on a “Friday afternoon of the 14th day of the month” but on a Thursday on the 30th day of Av in the year 3760 AM. It is equivalent to August 17. The Holy Spirit revealed this date which I first heard in 1983 from old listeners. I was able to prove it to be true and correct in my studies from 1999 to 2003. Do you know the year? It was 1 BC.

sources, provide them

 

[peacecrusader888]

sources, provide them

20111130.1010

@outhouse

The results of the study done on the crucifixion of Jesus is at http://aristean.org/crucifyidx.htm.

You may read also the following related websites:
1. http://aristean.org/wp041.htm titled “Jesus died at exactly 12 noon”
2. http://aristean.org/wp104.htm titled “Crucifixion could only have happened on a Thursday”
3. http://aristean.org/wp108.htm titled “Days to Passover”
4. http://aristean.org/wp110.htm titled “Bible stories indicate crucifixion in summer”
5. http://aristean.org/wp117.htm titled “Parable of the fig tree and crucifixion”
6. http://aristean.org/wp105.htm titled “Notable findings regarding the crucifixion date of August 17”

 

[Pegg]

20111130.0935

@Pegg

This is not about the birth of Jesus but I will comment what you said.

Jesus did not die at 3pm. He died at exactly 12 noon.

He was not crucified on a “Friday afternoon of the 14th day of the month” but on a Thursday on the 30th day of Av in the year 3760 AM. It is equivalent to August 17. The Holy Spirit revealed this date which I first heard in 1983 from old listeners. I was able to prove it to be true and correct in my studies from 1999 to 2003. Do you know the year? It was 1 BC.

its a strange date you've got there. I commented on it in your other thread about when the Quran says Jesus was born.

but anyway, When do you think Pontius Pilate was alive???

 

[Pegg]

20111130.1010

@outhouse

The results of the study done on the crucifixion of Jesus is at http://aristean.org/crucifyidx.htm.

You may read also the following related websites:
1. http://aristean.org/wp041.htm titled “Jesus died at exactly 12 noon”

Link States: "The sixth hour is equivalent to 12 noon, and the ninth hour, 3pm in the afternoon. Logically, a 12 noon death of Jesus is more believable than about 3pm death because would darkness precede or succeed His death? "
How can the 6th hour of the day be equivalent to the 12th hour?
Has this taken into account that the jewish day began at sundown? Or is this based on how we view the hours of a day?
On Nisan 13 (Thursday afternoon) The disciples were making arrangements for the Passover. see Matthew 26:17-19
The meal they had that evening is spoken of at Matthew 26:20, 21.As it was now 'evening' the new day began and thus Jesus was eating with his apostles at the beginning of Nisan 14.

He was trialed on the same night, and in the morning it was still Nisan 14. He was hung up during the day of Nisan 14 and taken down off the stake before the sun went down, hence it was still Nisan 14. At sundown began the new day and thus the 'passover' of Nisan 15 began.

regarding this point, before Jesus was taken off the stake, Mark reports:
Mark 15:42 Now as it was already late in the afternoon, and since it was Preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

And I was able to prove that this revelation of the Holy Spirit is true and correct.

You will make a perfect addition to my ignore list. :yes:

 

[outhouse]

20111130.1010

@outhouse

The results of the study done on the crucifixion of Jesus is at http://aristean.org/crucifyidx.htm.

You may read also the following related websites:
1. http://aristean.org/wp041.htm titled “Jesus died at exactly 12 noon”
2. http://aristean.org/wp104.htm titled “Crucifixion could only have happened on a Thursday”
3. http://aristean.org/wp108.htm titled “Days to Passover”
4. http://aristean.org/wp110.htm titled “Bible stories indicate crucifixion in summer”
5. http://aristean.org/wp117.htm titled “Parable of the fig tree and crucifixion”
6. http://aristean.org/wp105.htm titled “Notable findings regarding the crucifixion date of August 17”

Sorry but his information is incorrect, his birthdate is unknown because he is only known historically after 30 years of age


You do know the authors of the gospel YOUR link provides never knew or met jesus/yeshua.

 

[peacecrusader888]

its a strange date you've got there. I commented on it in your other thread about when the Quran says Jesus was born.

but anyway, When do you think Pontius Pilate was alive???

20111130.1415

@Pegg

Pontius Pilate reigned for ten years as governor of the Roman province of Judaea while Emperor Tiberius Caesar was in office.

In one of our sessions with the Holy Spirit, I learned that Jesus created Pontius Pilate when He was 12 years old because the new Roman emperor, Tiberius Caesar, asked His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, to give Jesus to him for adoption. His mother gave a boy who looked exactly like Jesus. It is just logical that Tiberius Caesar appointed his adopted child, Pontius Pilate, who was 26 years old then, as governor of Judaea during his reign as emperor.

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

In one of our sessions with the Holy Spirit, I learned that Jesus created Pontius Pilate when He was 12 years old because the new Roman emperor, Tiberius Caesar, asked His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, to give Jesus to him for adoption. His mother gave a boy who looked exactly like Jesus. It is just logical that Tiberius Caesar appointed his adopted child, Pontius Pilate, who was 26 years old then, as governor of Judaea during his reign as emperor.

Would you mind telling us more about these sessions you have with the Holy Spirit? I'm very curious about them.

 

[peacecrusader888]

You will make a perfect addition to my ignore list. :yes:

20111130.1430

@Jayhawker Soule

No problem. If you do not want to listen to the Holy Spirit, it is up to you. I am just sharing to you what I heard and learned from Him. Did you know that had I proven that His revelations of May 23 birth date and August 17 death date were wrong, I would have renounced my belief in Him? But since I, myself, have proven them correct and true, they reinforced my belief in the spirit who we (plural) talk to to be the spirit of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit. As 2 Corinthians 4:13 says, “I believed, and therefore have I spoken.”

 

[outhouse]

20111130.1430

@Jayhawker Soule

No problem. If you do not want to listen to the Holy Spirit, it is up to you. I am just sharing to you what I heard and learned from Him. Did you know that had I proven that His revelations of May 23 birth date and August 17 death date were wrong, I would have renounced my belief in Him? But since I, myself, have proven them correct and true, they reinforced my belief in the spirit who we (plural) talk to to be the spirit of Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit. As 2 Corinthians 4:13 says, “I believed, and therefore have I spoken.”

Im calling POE on this

 

[Pegg]

20111130.1415

@Pegg

Pontius Pilate reigned for ten years as governor of the Roman province of Judaea while Emperor Tiberius Caesar was in office.

In one of our sessions with the Holy Spirit, I learned that Jesus created Pontius Pilate when He was 12 years old because the new Roman emperor, Tiberius Caesar, asked His mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, to give Jesus to him for adoption. His mother gave a boy who looked exactly like Jesus. It is just logical that Tiberius Caesar appointed his adopted child, Pontius Pilate, who was 26 years old then, as governor of Judaea during his reign as emperor.

and how does that work out in terms of the dates you gave for the birth and death of Christ in 1bc?

You do know basic math, right?

 

[peacecrusader888]

Would you mind telling us more about these sessions you have with the Holy Spirit? I'm very curious about them.

20111130.1445

@Trey of Diamonds

The sessions are in the Filipino language because the woman who the Holy Spirit appropriates to communicate with the people is from the Philippines and speaks Filipino. Do you speak Filipino?

There are two ways by which the Holy Spirit communicates with us (plural). First is leaden where a white bed sheet covers her whole body, and second is without any covering.

In the first type, a bed sheet acts as transmitter to other parts of the world wherein the session is received in their own languages. For example, I speak in Filipino, it is received by Dulce in Israel in Hebrew. The people in Israel hears the session in Hebrew but they hear my voice speaking in Hebrew although I don’t know Hebrew.

When the spirit of the woman leaves her body, there is a sound. Then the Holy Spirit enters the body and there is a sound again. The voice that we hear is that of a man. When He is finished, He leaves the body and there is a sound. As the spirit of the woman returns to her body, there is a sound again.

You may hear the sound in http://aristean.org/audioidx.htm and http://aristean.org/mp3-files.htm. They are the hun for huni or sound files.

The second type is without any bed sheet cover. This is done when a mass is conducted. The session is heard by those in the Philippines only. The woman stands in front of the altar. When she leaves her body, the body collapses and falls to the floor. Then the Holy Spirit enter her body and it stands up. Then the Holy Spirit speaks. When He leaves the body, it collapses and falls to the floor but when her spirit goes back to it, then it rises. There is no sound in this type.

You may hear the mp3 files that I have uploaded in the above webpages.

 

[peacecrusader888]

and how does that work out in terms of the dates you gave for the birth and death of Christ in 1bc?

You do know basic math, right?

20111130.1515

@Pegg

Sure, I know basic math. The equivalent of May 23, 33 BC is Sivan 10, 3728. That is the point in time when Jesus was born. BC and AD assume that Jesus was born in 1 BC.

How about if 1 BC is when Jesus died? So anything before 1 BC would be called BCJ for Before Crucifixion of Jesus, and anything after 1 BC would be called ADJ for After Death of Jesus. So May 23, 33 BC would become May 23, 32 BCJ. It is still Sivan 10, 3728. This is one of the reforms in the Aristean Perpetual Calendar.

 

[Pegg]

20111130.1515

@Pegg

Sure, I know basic math. The equivalent of May 23, 33 BC is Sivan 10, 3728. That is the point in time when Jesus was born. BC and AD assume that Jesus was born in 1 BC.

How about if 1 BC is when Jesus died? So anything before 1 BC would be called BCJ for Before Crucifixion of Jesus, and anything after 1 BC would be called ADJ for After Death of Jesus. So May 23, 33 BC would become May 23, 32 BCJ. It is still Sivan 10, 3728. This is one of the reforms in the Aristean Perpetual Calendar.

AD stands for the latin 'Anno Domini' meaning 'year of our Lord'
Its also termed the 'CE' or Common Era by some.
And our BCE dates stand for Before Common Era.... or before the 'Year of our Lord'

But can you tell us the reasoning behind the 33 CE date for Jesus birth??? Dont you agree with the bible accounts of Jesus ministry and death during the time of Pontius Pilate??? If not, why not?

 

[Pegg]

20111130.1445

@Trey of Diamonds

The sessions are in the Filipino language because the woman who the Holy Spirit appropriates to communicate with the people is from the Philippines and speaks Filipino. Do you speak Filipino?

There are two ways by which the Holy Spirit communicates with us (plural). First is leaden where a white bed sheet covers her whole body, and second is without any covering.

In the first type, a bed sheet acts as transmitter to other parts of the world wherein the session is received in their own languages. For example, I speak in Filipino, it is received by Dulce in Israel in Hebrew. The people in Israel hears the session in Hebrew but they hear my voice speaking in Hebrew although I don’t know Hebrew.

When the spirit of the woman leaves her body, there is a sound. Then the Holy Spirit enters the body and there is a sound again. The voice that we hear is that of a man. When He is finished, He leaves the body and there is a sound. As the spirit of the woman returns to her body, there is a sound again.

You may hear the sound in http://aristean.org/audioidx.htm and http://aristean.org/mp3-files.htm. They are the hun for huni or sound files.

The second type is without any bed sheet cover. This is done when a mass is conducted. The session is heard by those in the Philippines only. The woman stands in front of the altar. When she leaves her body, the body collapses and falls to the floor. Then the Holy Spirit enter her body and it stands up. Then the Holy Spirit speaks. When He leaves the body, it collapses and falls to the floor but when her spirit goes back to it, then it rises. There is no sound in this type.

You may hear the mp3 files that I have uploaded in the above webpages.

What makes you think it is the holy spirit entering her body and not a wicked demon entering her body?

If it really were the holy spirit, then I would think her teachings would be in harmony with the holy scriptures which were inspired by the same holy spirit. So its not like the holy spirit doesnt know that Jesus lived during the rule of Pontius Pilate... yet your woman is saying that Jesus lived and died almost 2 decades before Pontius Pilate was ruler..... so are you really sure you have the same 'holy spirit'??????

I dont think so. I would strongly advise you to keep away from that woman.

 

[dyanaprajna2011]

Didn't Paul say something to the extent of, "if I, or an angel, should teach you anything different besides what you have been taught (in the letter, or the Bible), let him be cursed"?