nPeace
Veteran Member
It's not changing what it says Ken. What will you tell me next, that no parable, mentions prodigal.That's one way to change what it says... the problem with that position is that no parables use proper names.
Where does it indicate that the story of the prodigal son is a parable?There is no indication that it was a parable and doesn't conform to all other parables.
I don't understand what you are saying.Of course, if one believe that spirits are asleep somewhere, everywhere -- then we can call all scriptures that speak otherwise as just visions or parables.
The Bible does not say spirits are asleep somewhere.
The Bible speaks of God and angels being spirit. The other spirit spoken of, is the spirit God put in man. It's not a being.
For example...
(Psalm 104:29, 30) 29 . . .If you take away their spirit, they die and return to the dust. 30 If you send out your spirit, they are created,. . .
(Ecclesiastes 12:7) Then the dust returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it.
These scriptures harmonize. What is that spirit?
If we don't establish from scripture, the truth regarding the condition of the dead, we would probably say anything we like. Isn't that what we see happening?When Paul said, "to be absent in the body is to be present with the Lord" - we could just say that he is just sleeping next to Jesus and the fact that Jesus died, the body that everyone saw were just analogies, visions and parables.
The Bible tells us the condition of the dead, as many have pointed out... including an atheist.
Post #276
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"Where does the light go when you switch the light off?"
"Light" in that sense doesn't go anywhere. It simply ceases to be generated by the light source.
Same with life. Death is the irreversible failure / cessation of the body's life support systems.
Ecclesiastes 3:18-20 (RSV)
I said in my heart with regard to the sons of men that God is testing them to show them that they are but beasts.
For the fate of the sons of men and the fate of beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other.
They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts; for all is vanity.
All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Ecclesiastes 9:4-6
He who is joined with all the living has hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward; but the memory of them is lost.
Their love and their hate and their envy have already perished, and they have no more for ever any share in all that is done under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:10
Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might; for there is no work or thought or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, to which you are going.
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Do those scriptures, as well as the ones in the OP, agree with what you believe on the subject?
If yes, can you please explain how they do?