White Privilege is a Politically Motivated Lie

[Nous]

They are not false.

Yes, the idiotic posts you linked to at Quora are false. Women are not given special privileges in child custody decisions that men are denied. Women are not given special privileges that men are denied in entering, attending and graduating from colleges and universities. And if women are given shorter sentences than men for the violating the same statute code, there are reasonable justifications for it (just as there are good reasons that some men are given longer sentences than other men for convictions under the same statute code.)

 

[Enoch07]

Yes, the idiotic posts you linked to at Quora are false. Women are not given special privileges in child custody decisions that men are denied. Women are not given special privileges that men are denied in entering, attending and graduating from colleges and universities. And if women are given shorter sentences than men for the violating the same statute code, there are reasonable justifications for it (just as there are good reasons that some men are given longer sentences than other men for convictions under the same statute code.)

Then the same can be said for white privilege, or any other privilege. That Its all just an illusion, and other factors are at play, that make it appears so.

 

[metis]

Then the same can be said for white privilege, or any other privilege. That Its all just an illusion, and other factors are at play, that make it appears so.

Oh, so racism doesn't exist?

 

[Enoch07]

Oh, so racism doesn't exist?

Sure it does. But racism is not mutually exclusive to white people either.

 

[It Aint Necessarily So]

White privilege is not as prevalent as female privilege. But nobody wants to talk about that.

In America, life is easiest if you are white, male, straight, and Christian. Yes, there are situations in which females have advantages, but overall, relative to men, they are at a disadvantage. Although things are improving for women, they are still paid less on average than men, get promoted to upper levels of management less often than men, are often resented for being intelligent or assertive just because they are women, are more frequently subjected to sexual harassment, etc..

 

[Nous]

Then the same can be said for white privilege, or any other privilege.

You can't deduce that from any fact you have presented and substantiated. The fact that women are not specially "privileged" over men in child custody rulings, the educational system or in sentencing for crimes does not imply that there are no disparities in the treatment of people on the basis of race.

 

[Enoch07]

In America, life is easiest if you are white, male, straight, and Christian. Yes, there are situations in which females have advantages, but overall, relative to men, they are at a disadvantage. Although things are improving for women, they are still paid less on average than men, get promoted to upper levels of management less often than men, are often resented for being intelligent or assertive just because they are women, are more frequently subjected to sexual harassment, etc..

Men work more hours on average, than women. Men die more frequently than women in the work place. Men go after higher paid careers. So why shouldn't they earn more? Intelligent and assertive women are valued, they make more money for the company, profit is the only thing corporations are concerned with. I'll give you the sexual harassment. But women typically chose different career paths than men, nobody forces them to take lower paid positions.

 

[Enoch07]

You can't deduce that from any fact you have presented and substantiated. The fact that women are not specially "privileged" over men in child custody rulings, the educational system or in sentencing for crimes does not imply that there are no disparities in the treatment of people on the basis of race.

In some areas they are. Just as in some areas men are. The only difference is some people claim men are privileged, and that women are not. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. Neither of them are better than the other, just different. Some of us can recognize these differences and appreciate them. The rest just want to complain that women are weak, which does nothing to help women.

 

[YmirGF]

In America, life is easiest if you are white, male, straight, and Christian. Yes, there are situations in which females have advantages, but overall, relative to men, they are at a disadvantage. Although things are improving for women, they are still paid less on average than men, get promoted to upper levels of management less often than men, are often resented for being intelligent or assertive just because they are women, are more frequently subjected to sexual harassment, etc..

If the notion that women are payed less was actually true you would find that the workforce was primarily composed of women due to the fact that employers could get away with paying them less. Why would I hire 3 men to do the job of 4 women? Given that more men are in the workforce indicates that there are other important factors that are being ignored. Daycare centres are staffed by perhaps 90% + women. Someone does not go into the daycare field, education or social services to get rich.

 

[Nous]

In some areas they are. Just as in some areas men are. The only difference is some people claim men are privileged, and that women are not. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses. Neither of them are better than the other, just different. Some of us can recognize these differences and appreciate them. The rest just want to complain that women are weak, which does nothing to help women.

If you believe that you can deduce claims here, do so. Begin with a proposition that you can show to be a true statement.

 

[Enoch07]

If you believe that you can deduce claims here, do so. Begin with a proposition that you can show to be a true statement.

I already have. You called bullcrap, but that does not mean they are untrue. I stand by the statistics I listed earlier. Women have certain advantages men dont, and vice versa.

 

[Revoltingest]

If the notion that women are payed less was actually true you would find that the workforce was primarily composed of women due to the fact that employers could get away with paying them less. Why would I hire 3 men to do the job of 4 women? Given that more men are in the workforce indicates that there are other important factors that are being ignored. Daycare centres are staffed by perhaps 90% + women. Someone does not go into the daycare field, education or social services to get rich.

I'm sorry to point this out to you, but attributing pay differences to worker
preferences & market forces is blaming the victim. Pay should be the
same regardless of hours worked, length of time on the job, etc, etc.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I think the problem with the "paywage gap" is that it's presented as everywhere. It's not. Every single job that I've ever worked - including for the Air Force - employees were paid the exact same wages. Even when (frustratingly) the women did far less work--especially less physical labor.

 

[Enoch07]

I'm sorry to point this out to you, but attributing pay differences to worker
preferences & market forces is blaming the victim. Pay should be the
same regardless of hours worked, length of time on the job, etc, etc.

He'll yeah. I'll work 40 hours this week, but my female coworker should work 50 and we both get paid the same at the end of the week! Also I just started yesterday and she's been here for 10 years so I deserve the same pay!

 

[Revoltingest]

He'll yeah. I'll work 40 hours this week, but my female coworker should work 50 and we both get paid the same at the end of the week! Also I just started yesterday and she's been here for 10 years so I deserve the same pay!

Well...the equality of outcome style of gender equality would make it so.

 

[Enoch07]

Well...the equality of outcome style of gender equality would make it so.

You don't say. You make it sound like equality of opportunity is such an oppressive force. Who knew equality of outcome was so great!

 

[metis]

Sure it does. But racism is not mutually exclusive to white people either.

Who here said or implied that it was?

 

[Enoch07]

Who here said or implied that it was?

Most people that believe in white privilege, usually.

 

[Stanyon]

There are lots of assumptions that can be made about me based on that information. Some of it will be spot on accurate. Some of it will be inaccurate. Like I've said before, pretending (or not recognizing) the importance that our social influences play on our personal development is foolish.

Sure there are a lot of assumptions that could be made but it would be like throwing darts blindfolded and standing backwards, a cheap knock-off version of marketing101. I would say that pretending (or not recognizing) that some people have not always lived in their geographical area or have solely been influenced by a static set of someone else's idea of social influence to be equally foolish.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Persistently complaining about other people's advantages is the single best way to get ahead in the world and make your own privilege.