Who made God?

[Adramelek]

To that, evolutionists will ask the age old question, If all life comes from preexisting life, who created God?

All gods of all times and nations have been created by men. As for the origins of the Universe, that is a question that humanity may never know the answer to. Just one mans opinion.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

No. It is an understatement. However, other things you've said about God contradict it. For one thing, why on earth would God do any judging?

RE: why on earth would God do any judging?

If I may add according to John [5v22] God does not now do the judging because God has committed all judging to his Son, Christ Jesus.
-The judgment seat of Christ.- 2nd Cor 5v10.

Jesus has a basis for his judging according to Matthew [25v40] it is on the basis of how the humble sheep-like people of verse 32 treat Jesus 'brothers' of verse 40.

 

[Cain]

All gods of all times and nations have been created by men. As for the origins of the Universe, that is a question that humanity may never know the answer to. Just one mans opinion.

Thank you Adramelek,
Mankind has been personifying the objective universe since he climbed down from the trees. What many religions understand as a Divine Entity is nothing more than the mathematical, ordered, material plane. Some religions choose to align this with Nature, others need a god or a pantheon of gods to Become metaphors for this OU.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Why do you think Heaven is a single place? God has already constructed one Matrix, i.e. Heaven itself, why not make 6 billion?
But the problem is more fundamental than that. It's actually quite simple: you don't judge automatons.

The word 'heaven' in Scripture can mean more than one location. For example: the mid-heavens above us where the birds fly. 'Heaven' can mean governmental powers that tower high, so to speak, above it subjects.

According to Hebrews [9v24] God's home does have a specific location because there it says Jesus appeared before the presence or person of God in heaven itself.

Both angelic creation and human creation were Not created as robots or automatons. We are all free moral agents with the ability to choose.
God's moral judgments are recored in Scripture for all to see and read.
We all freely choose to abide by God's judgments or choose not to obey.

-Deut 4v16; 30v19; 32v5; Exodus 32v7

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Thank you Adramelek,
Mankind has been personifying the objective universe since he climbed down from the trees. What many religions understand as a Divine Entity is nothing more than the mathematical, ordered, material plane. Some religions choose to align this with Nature, others need a god or a pantheon of gods to Become metaphors for this OU.

And this is why I've continued to state that my signature answers the question.

 

[Thief]

And this is why I've continued to state that my signature answers the question.

Still quoting a fictional character from a dated movie.....

Step up to the Matrix.

Take a pill.

 

[averageJOE]

Still quoting a fictional character from a dated movie.....

Step up to the Matrix.

Take a pill.

Just like how you quote fictional characters from a dated book.

 

[RitalinO.D.]

Still quoting a fictional character from a dated movie.....

Step up to the Matrix.

Take a pill.

It's from a movie and makes volumes more sense than anything you've said recently.

 

[PolyHedral]

Still quoting a fictional character from a dated movie.....

Step up to the Matrix.

Take a pill.

 

[Krok]

The energy that is in us can only come from the Creator,...

Nonsense. All the evidence we have at the moment is that the energy that's in us comes from the sun, through eating and drinking various things. Nothing else. I mean, if you don't eat or drink anything, you die after a week or month or two. No exceptions at all.

so I guess, yes, we are eternal in that the energy that powers us first existed with him.

No, we're not eternal. We die. Gone. Nothing eternal about us. Unless you have verifiable evidence towards the contrary.

So in terms of this, do you agree that it is possible that God can be eternal and did not require a maker?

Maybe the FSM is eternal as we don't have any evidence that the FSM exists or doesn't exist. We need evidence to verify that the Holy FSM exists, first, before we can speculate whether He/She/It is eteral or not. After first verifying the existence , or non-existence, of FSM, we can speculate about it's eternal existence or non-eternal existence.

What is regarded as the 'Word' of the FSM promised us that the FSM will provide for everything believers prayed for. Everything. The FSM does not heal amputees, even if that healing is prayed for every day. By believers. What is regarded as his word, lied. The chances of the FSM existing are thus very close to nill. That's why I think the FSM doesn't exist.

 

[camanintx]

Just like how you quote fictional characters from a dated book.

:clap

 

[Thief]

:clap

Clap all you want...and maybe Tinkerbell will come back.

In the mean time....I don't quote scripture very often....
and when I do....it would be prophets who did live.

 

[Sententia]

Clap all you want...and maybe Tinkerbell will come back.

In the mean time....I don't quote scripture very often....
and when I do....it would be prophets who did live.

Peter pan I get but what does the rest of your post mean? What prophets? What is a prophet? Define a prophet... Do I know any prophets? What scripture? What religion?

 

[Thief]

Peter pan I get but what does the rest of your post mean? What prophets? What is a prophet? Define a prophet... Do I know any prophets? What scripture? What religion?

You seem overwhelmed.....
care to narrow that down a bit?

 

[RitalinO.D.]

You seem overwhelmed.....
care to narrow that down a bit?

Yes, the reason people do not understand your weird posts is your overwhelming intellect.

Stop speaking in riddles and maybe people will actually understand what you say.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Yes, the reason people do not understand your weird posts is your overwhelming intellect.

Stop speaking in riddles and maybe people will actually understand what you say.

No overwhelming intellect or riddles. His post are constructed in a "rhetorical" fashion by answering questions with a question....

 

[Big_TJ]

the incidences of God 'appearing' to various individuals in the old testament, was by means of his messengers....the angels.

Here an important verse that they left out:
Ex. 33:18-23 “Cause me to see, please, your glory..."I myself shall cause all my goodness to pass before your face...You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.” And Jehovah said further: “Here is a place with me, and you must station yourself upon the rock. And it has to occur that while my glory is passing by I must place you in a hole in the rock, and I must put my palm over you as a screen until I have passed by. After that I must take my palm away, and you will indeed see my back. But my face may not be seen.”

Ok; so this verse confirms that God has a back and that someone can see his back. So, when someone say "no one can see god and live" does it means that they cannot see god's face and live?

And God also have palms? hmmm, I wonder what else he/she/it has that my neighbor has?

 

[Thief]

No overwhelming intellect or riddles. His post are constructed in a "rhetorical" fashion by answering questions with a question....

yeah right....

And all too often I see insistence about answer someone's question....
as if a misdirection to their favor is a valid argument.

As for a rhetorical question I might offer....
don't answer it.

It speaks for it's self.
(and to any third party watching your retort)

 

[Sententia]

You seem overwhelmed.....
care to narrow that down a bit?

LOL. Are the questions that hard? It's pretty basic stuff mate. If your sitting in a room with devout Mormons, Catholics, Baptists, Jehovah Witnesses, Wiccans, Muslims, Buddhists, crazy hardcore fundies and lots of others... then your claim that your quoting scripture and prophets needs some baseline level to start with. What prophets? (Lots of religions have prophets... what distinguishes your prophets as true?) What is a prophet to you? My definition is not going to help communicate your view. Define a prophet in your own words... Do I know any prophets? What scripture? Why is that scripture better then other scripture? What religion and how do other religions measure up? How many other religions have you considered?

 

[Sententia]

yeah right....

And all too often I see insistence about answer someone's question....
as if a misdirection to their favor is a valid argument.

As for a rhetorical question I might offer....
don't answer it.

It speaks for it's self.
(and to any third party watching your retort)

I also like cookies and all too often I see insistence about eat someone's cookie.... as if a misdirection to their favorite is a valid argument. :foot:

Again mate. Your post seems rhetorical in that no one can decipher what you are trying to communicate. Thief is a fitting name if you consider the time lost trying to figure out what you are arguing about.

Just to humor you I will scroll back to find something... and wow... that took a longer then one would think... ok so here is a post where I think you might be trying to say something:

There are 6billion copies of this human form...each one generating a fresh soul.

Generating a fresh soul? What do you think that means? 6 Billions copies of human is arguing what? Humans by DNA or Cell count are more bacteria then human but what specifically are you trying to argue. What does 6 billion have to do with anything? What is a fresh soul? How does a human generate a fresh soul and are there other living things that generate souls or is this some exclusive magical gift for just humans? And what religion is this?

Every human culture has a set of creation myths, but they’re in the realm of mythology or religion or folklore and of course they’re all mutually inconsistent.

If we all cross over...

Cross over where? The static in the movie poltergeist? The ghost world where frauds like Susan Northrop can talk to me? The common every day christian heaven? Mormon Tiered heaven Level 2? (Level 3?) In the sky to live eternally with the Gods in Amenthe? Reincarnated as another man (Or animal?)

Ultimately I have no idea what you are saying... If we cross over... I crossover to different lanes mate when I am driving and sometimes I have to in order to take certain exits.

the chaos that Man creates for himself will 'bleed' into the peace of heaven.

Valhalla? Aaru? Jannah? How do men create chaos and if they do how would said chaos bleed into the peace of Jannah and how is Jannah considered Jannah if all this bleeding of chaos is going on?

Not all that we do here in this life will be allowed...later on.

Here we agree. It is clear that in this life while I am alive I can do things that when I am not alive I will no longer be able to. Off the top of my head I am going with pumping blood through veins and breathing but there are many other things too.

I believe in life after death.

So do the terrorists that flew planes in the World Trade Center. In fact it was one of their primary motivations. But what proof do you offer for the life after death and how do you define life if you can have one after death.

I strongly suspect...there is some 'reservation'...what walks in heaven.

I also strongly suspect that the blue squire consults with the red parrot at noon who walks on to level up and has 12 character points to spend or 24 if they specialize in mind control.