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Who will enter the paradise , the christains , the jews ,the muslims

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
A story about Chief of Town in egypt , called to main chefs of the there religions in that town , '"Imam" a muslim , and a "Clergyman" christain and a "Rabbi" jew ... He asked them : "i want for every one of you to prove me that , his religion is right, and guide to the paradise "... every one of them quiete (did not speak)...... then they dicided to choice the muslim to speak first..... the muslim said " if the jews will be enter the paradise , we will be with them ,because we believe in Moses , and if the Christains will be in the paradise we will be with them, because we believe in Jesus , and if we (Muslims) will be in the paradise , they will not, because they did not believe in Mohammed ".


Neither Jesus, Moses, or Muhammad are God.
I didn't know Muslims 'believe' in Muhammad, isn't that idolatry?
Jews and Christians have been worshiping God centuries before Muhammad, and continue to do that centuries after Muhammad, its just business as usual, at some point Arabia jacked in to the Judeo-Christian experience.
Let the Jews continue be Jews, there is nothing you can do about it, let the Christians continue being Christians, there is nothing you can do about it either, all you can do is focus on being a Muslim, now that is maturity in faith.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Neither Jesus, Moses, or Muhammad are God.
I didn't know Muslims 'believe' in Muhammad, isn't that idolatry?
lol Jesus , Moses ,Muhammad are God !!! I am sure that when you write this you were drunk, (i am just kiding)

Jews and Christians have been worshiping God centuries before Muhammad, and continue to do that centuries after Muhammad, its just business as usual, at some point Arabia jacked in to the Judeo-Christian experience.
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who tell you that Muhammad before Moses, and Jesus (peace be upon them ) and Ibrahim, Naoh,and Lot , and Adam are before Moses , Jesus (peace be upon them all)
Muhammad is the last prophet , you miss this
The_Absolute_Truth_About_Muhammad_in_the_Bible_With_Arabic_Subtitles : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
 

arimoff

Active Member
I am sure that many will argue that jews go to Hell but it isn't a gurantee. The question is will a Jew accept Jesus when it becomes obvious that He is the Savior or will he stubbornly resist to the bitter end? For that matter will he be able to get out from under the clutches of the Anti-Christ?


The question is will hard headed Christians like you accept the idea that there is no Jesus once the time comes. Will they finally admit that all those millions of innocent Jewish life were taken from this world by stupidity, the question is will you be willing to admit?
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The Kingdom of God is open to all who will receive Jesus as Lord and Savior. He is the door. If you wish to enter you will have to enter by Him.
God sent Jesus only to the jews , that mean only the jews (in the past ) who was believe in Him , whom would enter to the heaven !!! ,
and Jesus (PBUH) savior of his believers in that era because the bible was changed and modified after his rise up to his God , (that is way that are enormous errors inside it)


Christians don't need Mohammed. We know the door keeper personally.
accualty you need him , because he the only messenger who sent by God to all the human being , not like the Jesus (PBUH) sent only for the Jews , and Muhammad (PBUH) don't need the Christians .
and Muhammad (peace be upon him) mentionnend in the Original Holy Bible but the jews remove that for it , because Muhammad was not a Jewish prophet as they waited , and this is the proof
The_Absolute_Truth_About_Muhammad_in_the_Bible_With_Arabic_Subtitles : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive




That is because the Bible does belong to Moses and Jesus as well as a number of others but in the final analysis it belongs to God. Your denial of the Bible keeps you from Jesus and jeopardizes your chances of getting to Paradise. That is bad enough but you have to wallow in the lies of the devil to believe that the Bible is not the word of God.
God wraning the Jews because they always disbelieve and disobey his messengers and messeges .

and these two verses of the Bible mention that God would deny the Jews and ignore them , then He will provok them by a fool nation (arabs in that era)

De 32:21 They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

Mt 21:43 43
Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.



There are no enormous errors in the Bible. That is a completely contrived notion without a foundation.
There was a long debate between , Dr Zakir Naik Vs Dr William Cambell
this is the resume almost .


1-Dr Zakir Naik gave him the 22 errors in 2:30 s :

[youtube]Kz8yDqRQmMM[/youtube]
YouTube - 22 Biblical errors in 2 5 minutes DR ZAKIR NAIK



2-The Christian William Cambell did not deny these errors:

[youtube]qi2Jm4qr_zs[/youtube]
YouTube - A christian missionary loses to Zakir Naik - 1
 
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A Thousand Suns

Rationalist
A story about Chief of Town in egypt , called to main chefs of the there religions in that town , '"Imam" a muslim , and a "Clergyman" christain and a "Rabbi" jew ... He asked them : "i want for every one of you to prove me that , his religion is right, and guide to the paradise "... every one of them quiete (did not speak)...... then they dicided to choice the muslim to speak first..... the muslim said " if the jews will be enter the paradise , we will be with them ,because we believe in Moses , and if the Christains will be in the paradise we will be with them, because we believe in Jesus , and if we (Muslims) will be in the paradise , they will not, because they did not believe in Mohammed ".



First it depends upon the circumstances the person lived in and maybe he didn't got the message of Islam so its a exception but still he has to believe in One God and he'll judged according to his deeds at Day Of Judgement

Second if a person got the message of Islam and yet he disbelieves(God or Muhammad(pbuh) ) then there is no doubt that he will enter Hell
 

A Thousand Suns

Rationalist
Finally those people before Muhammad(pbuh) time will be judged according to the law of the Prophets(pbuh all) of that time and place .

For example Jesus(pbuh) was sent to children of Israel of that time but today His law isn't valid anymore

but the the point to be noted is that the basic message remained the same. which is to believe in One God

Christianity
(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]

Judaism
"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."

Hinduism
"He is One only without a second."
[Chandogya Upanishad 6:2:1]1
[The Bible, Mark 12:29]

Islam
"Say: He is Allah,
The One and Only.
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
"He begets not, nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him."
[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
Second if a person got the message of Islam and yet he disbelieves(God or Muhammad(pbuh) ) then there is no doubt that he will enter Hell

Why would people have to accept Muhammad to go to Heaven? He isn't G-d or anything so why would not believing in him be equated to disbelief?

I find the whole notion that only certain people go to Heaven and Hell asinine.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
So people who do not accept Jesus are the enemies of G-d?

I can't imagine how you would reach that conclusion.

However since jesus is God, if one were to consider himself an enemy of Jesus, he would be an enemy of God.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Or perhaps there is no such thing as either a Savior or an anti-Christ, and Jesus was just another nice Jewish boy killed by the Romans....

You can fantasize all that you wish but the Biblical record stands as a witness against your fantasies.

Granted the Anti-Christ has not appeared yet but there is no doubt in my mind that Jews are still looking for a Messiah and it becomes more imprtant every day as Israel becomes more isolated.
 

xkatz

Well-Known Member
I can't imagine how you would reach that conclusion.

It's what you said:
I am sure that many will argue that jews go to Hell but it isn't a gurantee. The question is will a Jew accept Jesus when it becomes obvious that He is the Savior or will he stubbornly resist to the bitter end?

I cannot accept Jesus as a Savior. Therefore, according to you I will go to Hell.

However since jesus is God, if one were to consider himself an enemy of Jesus, he would be an enemy of God.

I am not an enemy of Jesus, I respect him. As I said though, I cannot accept him as Savior or Messiah, so would that make me an enemy of G-d?
 
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Thief

Rogue Theologian
I said so in another post a long time ago....

Any prophet that spoke well of God, may stand well in His presence.

Jesus failed to enter heaven?.....Moses?....Muhammad?

If the prophet you follow failed, so will you.

But if that prophet did succeed, you will stand face to face with Him.

And He will ask the angels that brought you....'What's this?!'

They will stand back and excuse themselves....
'He used Your Name...and Your Word....as if it belonged to him.
We thought he was one of Yours.'

And you shall have your day of reckoning with your Lord.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
You can fantasize all that you wish but the Biblical record stands as a witness against your fantasies.

Whew! I'd hate for there to be a Biblical witness against me! Fortunately, I use the original Bible, written by Jews, for Jews, in the Jewish language of Hebrew, which stops at Chronicles. Nothing in my Bible says anything about Jesus or Heaven or Hell or an anti-Christ, or anything like that.

Guess instead of worrying about Heaven and Hell and Satan and an anti-Christ, instead I'll just follow the commandments, observe Shabbat and the holidays, and stay away from the pork, and let other people worry about their own traditions, and their own relationships with God, and not presume that somehow my tradition contains a monopoly on truth that will permit me to insult the beliefs of others to their faces....
 
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