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Who Would This Person Be Within Hinduism

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Hinduism isn't one single religion; it is an umbrella title for many different religious groups. What they have in common is that they evolved from the Vedic scriptures.
All of the Hindu scriptures combined is more than any other religion. Much, much more. Even each individual Hindu branch/sect has more scripture than any other religion.
Most Hindus, I believe, uphold the Vedas (which is a lot of text). Many, probably most, uphold the Bhagavad Gita. Most also seem to take the Ramyana and Mahabharata seriously. Beyond those, I am not sure which texts are important to -all/most- Hindus. Certainly the Puranas are significant but I do not know if non-Vaishnava Hindus read them.
Thanks for the information.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
please don't try to do this kind of things to a complex religion
One should know that It is a debate forum. The norms of debate, therefore, must happen here. Shouldn't one be prepared for that? All religions combined are faced with the ridicule of religion by Atheism/Agnosticism/Skepticism. Unless we make religion's (whatever revealed religion) in-house ramifications/boundries stronger the house will burn and reduce to ashes and dead spiritually.

Why should a religion be complex instead of being simple, easy to practice, and affordable for every individual soul of the masses and not just for the selected elite classes and economic well-offs dominating its affairs? Isn't every individual human important irrespective of their race,color or creed? Please
Anbody religious or irreligious, please
Regards
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
How much volume/size would be of all the Hindu scripture texts in comparison with Quran? And how much of its has the consensus of all the Hinduism people?
Anybody please
Regards
Last time I saw that attempted, it was somewhere between 100 to 1000 times greater, depending on what was considered scripture.
 

Nyingjé Tso

Dharma not drama
Why should a religion be complex instead of being simple, easy to practice, and affordable for every individual soul of the masses and not just for the selected elite classes and economic well-offs dominating its affairs? Isn't every individual human important irrespective of their race,color or creed?
Regards

Complex =/= discriminative/rascist

I agree with what you say yet have no idea how this is related to what I said...

Have you read intently all the Hinduism religion scripture from A to Z? Please
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LIke VinayakaJi said, it is impossible. I have read a numerous things, but focused on the scriptures from my sampradaya, and from the teachings I received directly from priests in India. I have not read every scriptures from every other sampraday, I think it would take a couple of lifetimes to understand it all.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Something to do with Grandiose Delusions? :p
Some people have the opposite delusion ... being totally worthless ... many depression sufferers have that ... important to have a middle ground. I think many people on forums have the illusion that their audience is far wider than in reality. In reality, maybe 20 people on the entire planet will read these words.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Some people have the opposite delusion ... being totally worthless ... many depression sufferers have that ...

Very much my issue, though I don't believe it shows here or at work. It's the old "laughing on the outside, crying on the inside" thing. Meds help but there are always break-through episodes.

And then of course there are the mixed states: rage and depression at the same time. Very dangerous state for the person, and possibly those around him or her.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Very much my issue, though I don't believe it shows here or at work. It's the old "laughing on the outside, crying on the inside" thing. Meds help but there are always break-through episodes.

And then of course there are the mixed states: rage and depression at the same time. Very dangerous state for the person, and possibly those around him or her.
You're not alone, for sure. I'm beginning to think that just 'presence on the internet' is a signal for some of this. Not sure though.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
You're not alone, for sure. I'm beginning to think that just 'presence on the internet' is a signal for some of this. Not sure though.

There were times that it was a definite trigger for me. Fortunately it's gotten way better. The last verbal fisticuffs I had was a year or two ago on a subreddit page. I deleted my account and didn't look back. Becoming a staff member has also helped me keep a leash on my tongue.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Have you read intently all the Hinduism religion scripture from A to Z?
Nope, not read hardly any of it; only read the Kalki Purana as couldn't get a straight answer on the forums.
Cherry picking in whatever translation of a purana you find doesn't makes you an expert on HInduism
As saying I've hardly studied any Hindu text; i was just asking a question about my experiences, and what I've been asked to do.
Or to try to say, it would be mumbling to a wall. And walls are not well known for being great listeners.
Errrrm, a very astute wall, which happens to notice everything; if we point, there are always 3 fingers pointing back at ourselves.
We respect your beliefs, please respect ours too ?
People were not aware of my beliefs; instead they've debated me on other people's beliefs....

Which is fine; yet I've not really felt respected, which is where this topic then got moved into a debate section instead.
Something to do with Grandiose Delusions? :p
1:28 In Kah-yuga, people will blaspheme a spiritual master or other elderly person without hesitation. :innocent:
 
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The_Fisher_King

Trying to bring myself ever closer to Allah
Premium Member
Hinduism isn't one single religion; it is an umbrella title for many different religious groups.

I agree.

What they have in common is that they evolved from the Vedic scriptures.

I'm much less sure about this, though. To be sure, the Vedas had a major influence on the development of many Hindu traditions. But arguably, a variety of 'indigenous' local/popular traditions also had a significant influence. So too did the Śramaṇa traditions, which seem to have had distinct origins from those of the historical Vedic religion.
 

Satyamavejayanti

Well-Known Member
"wizanda, post: 4795715, member: 1032"

Namaste,

I don't know, that is why i was asking everyone, as would mean studying all Hindu text to find it...
Read the Kalki Purana, found some quotes that fit; yet some of the stuff is well off.

I think one of the most important thing that is way off, is the date and time of Kalki Avatar, being at the end of Kali yuga not in the middle or (as many Hindus believe this is) the beginnings of the Yuga.

The bit about bankers who charge interest/usury being respected, is clearly our time.

Well many Hindus do think that this is the Kali Yuga so no disagreement there regarding the symptoms, but to be claiming to be a Avatar especially trying to link it with the Kalki Avatar is not consistency with the Kalki Puranas or any of the other "Hindu", texts.

But your not simply claiming Avatar-hood but you have a claim of experience of Brahman in Heaven, you display a theology similar in many respects to the Abrahamic theology, you have views about Hell & Heaven, your have a non-Hindu interpretation of Dharmah and things like Maya, you claim many things not consistent with a traditional Avatar characteristics.

The Avatar is confirmed by their Karma not their claims of similarity with any texts ect.

What is the Karma that you have performed that enables you to assume your Avatar-hood?
 
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Satyamavejayanti

Well-Known Member

Namaste,

The problem with this question is that it seems questioner is unaware of the vastness of the texts (texts only not even considering the Practical Samrada traditions), and then comparing it to a religion/faiths that have limited texts, usually 1 holy book, there firstly is no comparison possible between the Abrahamic texs VS the Darmic texts, in quantity or content. Therefore as my answer is in the negative, the questioners logic would be more like "I have read 1 book, but you have not read the Library, so you don't know much..."

Plus in Hinduism the is no compulsion to read all texts ever written. In Hinduism we are not relying solely on textual sources, there is a greater dimension of the Guru-Shishya tradition which surpasses mere text reading.

So essentially you are asking Hindu members if they have read the Entire Dharmic Library with texts spanning some 5000 years, this is a nonsensical question.
 

Rajina

Member
Nope, not read hardly any of it; only read the Kalki Purana as couldn't get a straight answer on the forums.

As saying I've hardly studied any Hindu text;

Try reading Srimad Bhagavad Purana. It also talks about kaliyuga.

" When there is a predominance of cheating, lying, sloth, sleepiness, violence, depression, lamentation, bewilderment, fear and poverty, that age is Kali, the age of the mode of ignorance. Because of the bad qualities of the age of Kali, human beings will become shortsighted, unfortunate, gluttonous, lustful and poverty-stricken. The women, becoming unchaste, will freely wander from one man to the next. Cities will be dominated by thieves, the Vedas will be contaminated by speculative interpretations of atheists, political leaders will virtually consume the citizens, and the so-called priests and intellectuals will be devotees of their bellies and genitals. The brahmacaris will fail to execute their vows and become generally unclean, the householders will become beggars, the vanaprasthas will live in the villages, and the sannyasis will become greedy for wealth. "

-Srimad bhagavad purana
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
views about Hell & Heaven
There are both concepts of Heaven & Hell in Hinduism.
interpretation of Dharmah and things like Maya
The terms Dharma & Maya are both from their origins; it isn't like I've changed their meanings, just got allot i add to their interpretation, based on experience.
What is the Karma that you have performed that enables you to assume your Avatar-hood?
Many past lifes; yet in this one was born that way.
a theology similar in many respects to the Abrahamic theology
There are numerous religions with this same ideology. :innocent:
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
For friend @wizanda

I find a book online at the official site of Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat/Community to which I belong. It is in Hindi script which I don't know. I could not find its translation in English or any other book on the same topic. Maybe you find an online good translator:
Shri Krishan Ji And Kalki Avatar.

https://www.alislam.org/hindi/Shri-Krishan-Ji-Aur-Kalki-Avatar.pdf
Just for information, no compulsion on any body to accept/endorse it contents. It is fine to disagree or agree with the contents.
In short Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be the End-Time reformer prophesied by almost all the religions in their scripture. He is follower of Muhammad and Quran. He is Mahdi, a Messiah (Second Coming), a Moshiach, a Buddha, a Krishna, a Zoroaster etc

Please, please
Regards
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
In short claimed to be the End-Time reformer prophesied by almost all the religions in their scripture.
Thank you for sharing.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad didn't fulfill the end times prophecies, as we're still here in the same state, Christians still worship the cross, and eat pig; so nothing got fixed.:innocent:
 
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