Why are there still Monkeys?

[FearGod]

So you accuse of philosophy to counter with requirements of faith. How quaint.

Not accuse, but thats it.

 

[Mycroft]

What is that "some thing" and where did that thing come from ?

We don't know. But the difference between you and science is that science is not afraid to say 'we don't know.' Saying that is the first important step to 'let's find out!' rather than the rather unimaginative, unoriginal and small-minded 'must be god' response.

Only those with an ego are afraid to say 'I don't know'.

 

[ruffen]

That is philosophical thoughts.

It is either to believe that there is God then you are a believer or to believe that there is no God then you are a disbeliever (atheist)

Of course. Although the two beliefs are not at all similar when it comes to credibility.

Also, there is a difference between actively believing that there is no God, and just not believing that there is a God. Some people have just never considered the possibility of a God, and that's it, while others (including myself) have given it a lot of thought and examined the arguments for and against, and concluded that there is no God.

 

[FearGod]

We don't know. But the difference between you and science is that science is not afraid to say 'we don't know.' Saying that is the first important step to 'let's find out!' rather than the rather unimaginative, unoriginal and small-minded 'must be god' response.

Only those with an ego are afraid to say 'I don't know'.

It isn't about being afraid or not but because they indeed don't know and won't know how to refute God's existence.

I have already said that i have the clues in the scripture which i believe in.

 

[FearGod]

Of course. Although the two beliefs are not at all similar when it comes to credibility.

Also, there is a difference between actively believing that there is no God, and just not believing that there is a God. Some people have just never considered the possibility of a God, and that's it, while others (including myself) have given it a lot of thought and examined the arguments for and against, and concluded that there is no God.

Believing and disbelieving have several forms.

I also spent years studying and searching for the truth and i'm more than sure about it.

 

[Thief]

Some thing has to be before a someone. It took billions of years before a conscious being could emerge. Could you talk before you could think?

And in the scheme of regression.....Someone had to be First in mind and heart.

then He spoke.....I AM!

Are you implying substance first?
God is born of substance?

How can the dead beget life?

 

[McBell]

Lol, I wonder who tagged this "trollville".

I did.

 

[McBell]

It isn't about being afraid or not but because they indeed don't know and won't know how to refute God's existence.

There is no need to refute a bold empty claim.

I have already said that i have the clues in the scripture which i believe in.

Good for you.

 

[McBell]

And in the scheme of regression.....Someone had to be First in mind and heart.

then He spoke.....I AM!

Are you implying substance first?
God is born of substance?

How can the dead beget life?

Bold empty claims do not help you outside your choir.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

Why not God ?

Define God in terms that can be explored scientifically, propose an hypothesis, design and perform experiments to either confirm or refute your hypothesis, then if the experiments are favorable to the existence of God as you have scientifically designed, then you'll have something. Until then, "Why not God?" has no more credibility or meaning than "Why not the Flying Spaghetti Monster?"

 

[Thief]

Bold empty claims do not help you outside your choir.

That wasn't a claim.....just a line of good reason.

Can the dead bring forth life?
Substance first?

 

[idav]

That wasn't a claim.....just a line of good reason.

Can the dead bring forth life?
Substance first?

You wanna call it spirit fine but it has to be something unless god is nothing.

 

[Thief]

You wanna call it spirit fine but it has to be something unless god is nothing.

God is something.....Spirit.

 

[idav]

God is something.....Spirit.

So something became something else the moment anything began. A default something was not dead but doesnt make it aware. You go to the extreme opposite to prove I am. If anything the singularity allows for an infinite type perception but a conscious entity is another level, more complex.

 

[McBell]

That wasn't a claim.....just a line of good reason.

more bold empty claims.

Can the dead bring forth life?
Substance first?

I have no idea what the rules are in your little world.

 

[Thief]

more bold empty claims.


I have no idea what the rules are in your little world.

So go play in your own.

 

[Thief]

So something became something else the moment anything began. A default something was not dead but doesnt make it aware. You go to the extreme opposite to prove I am. If anything the singularity allows for an infinite type perception but a conscious entity is another level, more complex.

I might argue....to say I AM!...and then creation begins...
would make that 'something' into the Creator.

And in the beginning most of the created substance had no form....as yet.
Some people think it took 'some time' for the substance to 'gel'.

 

[McBell]

So go play in your own.

I am.
Perhaps if you were to stop trying to bring yours in reality, you would not have so many problems?

 

[FearGod]

i find it exceedingly odd that atheists can accept any notion about who started the universe as long as the word God is excluded from it.

 

[McBell]

i find it exceedingly odd that atheists can accept any notion about who started the universe as long as the word God is excluded from it.

Interesting.
Cause I find it exceedingly odd that theists cannot accept any notion about how the universe started that does not have the word God in it.