Why are there still Monkeys?

[idav]

From Mirriam-Webster's definition of "magic".....
Definition #1a fits myths of creation by a supreme being quite well IMO.
I don't say that magical beliefs are inherently wrong, but neither do I find them
useful, as in having explanatory or predictive value. Ya just can't test them.

That sums it up pretty well. Guided evolution would mean supernatural intervention, or god is so invisible that it just looks like what we account for as natural types of cause ans effect.

 

[FearGod]

That's what I figured. You're unable to answer.

So if you don't know/can't understand these processes, how are we expected to explain them to you?

If you're happy that your life is fuelled by scientific illiteracy and and try to lambast those who seek to challenge you, great, I guess. But please don't partake in debates, as that clearly isn't your interest.

I have studied this while in the elementary school.

Your question in testing my knowledge is stupid and has nothing to do with our discussion.

Anyway let me explain it to you and see what is your point then.

The rooster produce sperms by the testes that transfers to the sperm sac.
The rooster deposit the sperm on the oviduct of the hen and reach the
infundibulum.

The eggs are formed in the hen ovaries (yolk) when released it passed to the
infundibulum.

if the egg met the sperm then the the germinal disc in the yolk will get fertilized to form the embryo.

Now what is your valuable point out of this.

God has nothing to do with this and it naturally happened.



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[Mycroft]

I have studied this while in the elementary school.

Your question in testing my knowledge is stupid and has nothing to do with our discussion.

Anyway let me explain it to you and see what is your point then.

The rooster produce sperms by the testes that transfers to the sperm sac.
The rooster deposit the sperm on the oviduct of the hen and reach the
infundibulum.

The eggs are formed in the hen ovaries (yolk) when released it passed to the
infundibulum.

if the egg met the sperm then the the germinal disc in the yolk will get fertilized to form the embryo.

Now what is your valuable point out of this.

God has nothing to do with this and it naturally happened.



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My point is that the beginning of the universe and the start of life is - albeit a little - akin to how an egg becomes a chick. A certain set of circumstances, a certain meeting of things (ie sperm meets egg) produces a certain effects that result in a chick. And so on and so forth.

 

[ruffen]

OMG.

Nature is created, the creator is supernatural.

We'll never understand what beyond the nature and we can't compare the creator to what was created, it is like comparing the door to the carpenter.

Then how can you claim to understand anything about your God? And how can you claim that this not-understandable thing that created the Universe is an intelligent being? It does not follow.

 

[FearGod]

Then how can you claim to understand anything about your God? And how can you claim that this not-understandable thing that created the Universe is an intelligent being? It does not follow.

Where did i say that i understand what is the nature of God ?

 

[ruffen]

Where did i say that i understand what is the nature of God ?

Why do you believe that God created the Universe?

 

[Thief]

From Mirriam-Webster's definition of "magic".....
Definition #1a fits myths of creation by a supreme being quite well IMO.
I don't say that magical beliefs are inherently wrong, but neither do I find them
useful, as in having explanatory or predictive value. Ya just can't test them.

So the statement ...I AM!....is a spell of some sort?

And Who would be casting that spell?

 

[FearGod]

My point is that the beginning of the universe and the start of life is - albeit a little - akin to how an egg becomes a chick. A certain set of circumstances, a certain meeting of things (ie sperm meets egg) produces a certain effects that result in a chick. And so on and so forth.

Can we have a chick without the rooster ?

How you compare it to the singularity ?
Would you pls explain how it is similar ?

 

[Thief]

Your blatant avoidance is duly noted.

You mean to say my faith is beyond your denial?

 

[FearGod]

Why do you believe that God created the Universe?

I said i have the clues in the scripture which you don't believe in.

 

[Revoltingest]

So the statement ...I AM!....is a spell of some sort?
And Who would be casting that spell?

Oopsies!
I amended my post.
Here you go!

From Mirriam-Webster's definition of "magic".....

1a: the use of means (as charms or spells) believed to have supernatural power over natural forces
1b: magic rites or incantations
2a: an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source

Definition #1a fits myths of creation by a supreme being quite well IMO.
I don't say that magical beliefs are inherently wrong, but neither do I find them
useful, as in having explanatory or predictive value. Ya just can't test them.

Edit: I meant "2a" rather than "1a".
Although, religious rituals would fit.

 

[FearGod]

Oopsies!
I amended my post.
Here you go!

From Mirriam-Webster's definition of "magic".....
Definition #1a fits myths of creation by a supreme being quite well IMO.
I don't say that magical beliefs are inherently wrong, but neither do I find them
useful, as in having explanatory or predictive value. Ya just can't test them.

Edit: I meant "2a" rather than "1a".
Although, religious rituals would fit.

Executing an order by saying it isn't a magic.

For example the president make an order to launch a war against "X",then it was the war.

Where is the magic in this ?

 

[ruffen]

I said i have the clues in the scripture which you don't believe in.

How would scripture be able to know anything about the nature of that which created the Universe? How do you know the scripture is correct? Because scripture says so?

 

[Revoltingest]

Executing an order by saying it isn't a magic.

For example the president make an order to launch a war against "X",then it was the war.

Where is the magic in this ?

It's in the (2a) definition....

an extraordinary power or influence seemingly from a supernatural source

.....as applied to creating the universe, & making things in it happen.

I don't claim that leaders launching wars has supernatural origins.
It's very natural....all too natural, & common.

 

[ruffen]

How could Muhammed know that it was God who spoke to him and not something else?

 

[FearGod]

It's in the (2a) definition....
.....as applied to creating the universe, & making things in it happen.

I don't claim that leaders launching wars has supernatural origins.
It's very natural....all too natural, & common.

Then do our minds realize the nature of the singularity ?

Is it natural to have a zero volume and infinite density or we are speaking about magical science.

 

[FearGod]

How would scripture be able to know anything about the nature of that which created the Universe? How do you know the scripture is correct? Because scripture says so?

It is useless to explain it here and it'll deviate the thread further from its intended purpose.

 

[FearGod]

How could Muhammed know that it was God who spoke to him and not something else?

Prophet is from the word prophecy.

Once his prophecies become true then i have to believe him, but that isn't our subject and hence lets keep on topic about the creator in general regardless of what religion i believe in.

 

[McBell]

You mean to say my faith is beyond your denial?

If that is what you have to tell yourself, by all means, go for it.

But you haven't fooled anyone except yourself.

 

[Mycroft]

You mean to say my faith is beyond your denial?

I think he means to say your faith is impenetrable to reason.