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Why are there still Monkeys?

McBell

McBell

Unbound
FearGod said:
Executing an order by saying it isn't a magic.

For example the president make an order to launch a war against "X",then it was the war.

Where is the magic in this ?
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There is no magic in it.
But then, the president actually exists.....
 
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ruffen

Active Member
FearGod said:
Prophet is from the word prophecy.

Once his prophecies become true then i have to believe him, but that isn't our subject and hence lets keep on topic about the creator in general regardless of what religion i believe in.
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I think it is on topic. If the topic is about the creator of the Universe, the credibility of the existence of that creator is highly relevant.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
ruffen said:
I think it is on topic. If the topic is about the creator of the Universe, the credibility of the existence of that creator is highly relevant.
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Sorry that i don't have an interest to explain it in this thread but you can simply search for it yourself if interested.
 
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Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
FearGod said:
Then do our minds realize the nature of the singularity ?
Is it natural to have a zero volume and infinite density or we are speaking about magical science.
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It's bizarre (based upon our experience in very different conditions),
but I see no reason to presume it's supernatural.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Revoltingest said:
Oopsies!
I amended my post.
Here you go!

From Mirriam-Webster's definition of "magic".....
Definition #1a fits myths of creation by a supreme being quite well IMO.
I don't say that magical beliefs are inherently wrong, but neither do I find them
useful, as in having explanatory or predictive value. Ya just can't test them.

Edit: I meant "2a" rather than "1a".
Although, religious rituals would fit.
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So...God needs a ritual to say ...I AM!....?

Someone had to be First.

I place that event simultaneous to ...Let there light!
 
Ouroboros

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Quatermass said:
Let's not forget that he did the first 3 days in the dark!
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And he "spoke" when there was nothing. I wonder how that sounds? Hmm...

One interesting thing with Big Bang is that it took some 150,000 years before the first light (first stars). So it was a long time between "let there be light" and the switch actually going on.
 
idav

idav

Being
Premium Member
Thief said:
So...God needs a ritual to say ...I AM!....?

Someone had to be First.

I place that event simultaneous to ...Let there light!
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Some thing has to be before a someone. It took billions of years before a conscious being could emerge. Could you talk before you could think?
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
idav said:
Thats how I would describe it. Necessarily existent by its own nature.
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That is philosophical thoughts.

It is either to believe that there is God then you are a believer or to believe that there is no God then you are a disbeliever (atheist)
 
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idav

idav

Being
Premium Member
FearGod said:
That is philosophical thoughts.

It is either to believe that there is God then you are a believer or to believe that there is no God then you are a disbeliever (atheist)
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So you accuse of philosophy to counter with requirements of faith. How quaint.
 
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