FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Show us then one example which proves that cause and effect is nonsense and doesn't make sense.
Who knows you may get a noble prize for it.
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Why are there still Monkeys?
- Thread starter Mycroft
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Show us then one example which proves that cause and effect is nonsense and doesn't make sense.
Who knows you may get a noble prize for it.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Show us then one example which proves that cause and effect is nonsense and doesn't make sense.
Who knows you may get a noble prize for it.
Quantum physics already shows us that cause and effect don't necessarily apply at the quantum level. Not only that, but it is even possible that effects can precede causes in the quantum world.
Quantum Diaries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW-AemjSVGY
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Show us then one example which proves that cause and effect is nonsense and doesn't make sense.
Who knows you may get a noble prize for it.
Mate you are about a century late.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Where in nature we can see superpositions of causal orders ?
Can you give some examples ?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Mate, answer my question.
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Sure, cause and effect break down at the quantum scale. So there are two instances where it does not apply:
1. Atemporally, cause and effect can not apply pre-time,
2. At the quantum scale, the BB being a quantum scale event.
Cause and effect apply to Newtonian, (classical) physics, which we surpassed long ago.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Where is the example in our real world ?
Bunyip
pro scapegoat
Radioactive decay for example.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
That is due to its property which is due to the random and spontaneous breakdown of the unstable nuecleus of the atom.
It is as silly as saying what causes the electric current to flow in copper and not in wood.
quantum computers exploit the fuzzy effects of quantum mechanics, allowing its "qubits" to exist as a 1, 0, or both simultaneously, a.k.a "superposition." So while a traditional computer will sequentially explore the potential solutions to a mathematical optimization problem,*
the quantum system looks at every potential solution simultaneously, known as quantum annealing, and returns answersnot just the single "best" but nearly 10,000 close alternatives as wellin roughly a second.*
The Quantum D-Wave 2 Is 3,600 Times Faster than a Super Computer
The claim exists. It has never been proven true, and most likely never will even if it happens to be true.
Except that of divine creation, apparently.
More like you make that your own personal mantra, and by that filter shape all of your perceptions and statements.
If you say so. There is not a meaning in that statement that I can see, so whatever.
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Show us then one example which proves that cause and effect is nonsense and doesn't make sense.
Who knows you may get a noble prize for it.
We call that inversion of burden of proof.
Your line of arguing depends on cause and effect being an universal law and necessity (from which the idea of a divinely-originated exception must arise), therefore no one needs to agree with you unless and until (among other requisites) convincing evidence that it is indeed an universal law is provided.
It is of course convenient to provide evidence against your statement, but ultimately it falls upon those who claim it to be an universal law to provide evidence of such being the case.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Are you talking about nature here or a designed work ?
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
May i ask you just a simple question ?
Can zeros make a one ?
Yes or no
if your answer is yes then explain how it works,IOW how 0 + 0 = 1 or nothings + nothingness = a thing,just speaking naturally and rationally of course.
Sure. But I fear it may not fulfill the purpose you hope it to.
It depends on how you define "zero", "one", and "to make".
In a graphic sense, they sure can:
Depending on personal take, one might legitimally say that so happens in integral calculus as well.
In any case, mathematics is a human creation that can't safely be assumed to extrapolate accurately into the real world. So whether the answer is "yes" or "no", that will literaly tell us nothing about how things are outside the field of mathematics proper.
You know, this looks like you expect me to feel responsible for your certainty. I must assume you either don't understand or don't accept the burden of proof that comes with stating the existence of God.
I do not have to convince you that I am right, or even that I know what I am talking about or make sense at all. That is not how it works, although I may decide to do so anyway.
Instead, I am entitled to disregard your certainty. Anyone is. And if that is unconfortable to you as a believer in God's existence, I'm sorry, but that only means that you have to choose between accepting that disconfort or attempting to provide evidence to convince us.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I didn't ask for a philosophical answer.
Just a simple answer,do 0 + 0 = 1 or nil + nil = 1, yes or no
This is math and not philosophy.
I didn't mention God but just a simple logic that we all understand.
Thats irrelevant. They are exploiting a natural phenomenon.
McBell
Unbound
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
And as to work then electrons should exist, where did electrons came from.
Speaking about the properties of the electron acting as a particle and a wave simultaneously and to be in 2 places at the same moment is an amazing property which you think of it as naturally happening but i understand it to be designed to be so,exactly as you think that the DNA was the work of nature whereas i believe it to be the work of a designer.
The same thing can be said about all matters and their different properties,if there is no designer then nothing can be achieved by nature itself as we know it.
What evidence suggests nature requires design? The designer needs a designer then.