Why are there still Monkeys?

[FearGod]

What evidence suggests nature requires design? The designer needs a designer then.

And there must be a first.

 

[idav]

And there must be a first.

A first something could be anything, so long as it inherently has potential for intelligence.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

And there must be a first.

If there must be a first, then there is an exception to cause and effect. If cause and effect has exceptions, then the Universe does not require a cause as it can be considered an exception.

Since we already know that cause and effect may not be Universal, we have no reason to assume that your assertions are true.

 

[FearGod]

A first something could be anything, so long as it inherently has potential for intelligence.

What is that thing that started everything,you may call it God or XYZ

 

[FearGod]

If there must be a first, then there is an exception to cause and effect. If cause and effect has exceptions, then the Universe does not require a cause as it can be considered an exception.

Since we already know that cause and effect may not be Universal, we have no reason to assume that your assertions are true.

And that exception is God to me and XYZ to you.

 

[Bunyip]

That is due to its property which is due to the random and spontaneous breakdown of the unstable nuecleus of the atom.

It is as silly as saying what causes the electric current to flow in copper and not in wood.

You asked for an example of an effect without a cause, radioactive decay is uncaused.

It was the example you asked for , there are many others.

 

[Bunyip]

As to zeros making a one, that is easy to do.

Say we use an accuracy of one decimal place.

So zero would be less than .5

Add two such zeros and you get one.

In terms of the universe however we have a total net energy of zero, so a total,energy of zero does not need to come from anywhere or have a cause.

 

[Ouroboros]

"0"

That's one (1) zero.

And this is two zeros: "00".

 

[FearGod]

You asked for an example of an effect without a cause, radioactive decay is uncaused.

It was the example you asked for , there are many others.

It is a property of certain types of matter, as i said to you it is as silly as saying what the cause that makes metals to be a good conductors.

 

[FearGod]

My question was very simple math

Does 0 + 0 = 1 or nil + nil = 1

Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity.
Michel de Montaigne

 

[McBell]

My question was very simple math

Does 0 + 0 = 1 or nil + nil = 1

And I flat out answered it.
In fact, I even gave you the answer you think you are looking for.

Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best proof of stupidity.
Michel de Montaigne

Do you also apply this to yourself?

 

[FearGod]

And I flat out answered it.
In fact, I even gave you the answer you think you are looking for.


Do you also apply this to yourself?

Sorry that i didn't notice your reply because you are in my ignore list,my apology.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

And that exception is God to me and XYZ to you.

Except I'm not asserting that there is an exception - you are. I've said that there's no reason to assume cause and effect applies to the singularity, as it most likely existed in a quantum state, therefore there is no reason to assume that the singularity had a cause of its existence or that an exception, therefore, is required.

 

[FearGod]

Except I'm not asserting that there is an exception - you are. I've said that there's no reason to assume cause and effect applies to the singularity, as it most likely existed in a quantum state, therefore there is no reason to assume that the singularity had a cause of its existence or that an exception, therefore, is required.

Still to you it is XYZ that made singularity to start at specific point of time when there was no space and there was no time.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Still to you it is XYZ that made singularity to start at specific point of time when there was no space and there was no time.

That sentence literally makes no sense. How can something start "at a specific point of time when there was no time?"

 

[FearGod]

That sentence literally makes no sense. How can something start "at a specific point of time when there was no time?"

Does singularity make sense to you ?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Does singularity make sense to you ?

Yes.

Are you going to start making sense and responding to the points I've made? Do you or do you not understand how cause and effect cannot be considered a Universal principle in the way that you are asserting it is?

 

[FearGod]

Yes.

Are you going to start making sense and responding to the points I've made? Do you or do you not understand how cause and effect cannot be considered a Universal principle in the way that you are asserting it is?

zero volume and infinite density makes sense to you.

How is that ?

Do you find it rational that a zero volume can have an infinite density ?

 

[Awkward Fingers]

zero volume and infinite density makes sense to you.

How is that ?

Do you find it rational that a zero volume can have an infinite density ?

Microscopic/macroscopic physics =/= quantum physics.

It's been mentioned before, but seriously
Seriously

Anything you may know about physics may or may not work inthe quantum scale.
While point mass objects are impossible macroscopicly, on the quantum level they happen.
A thousand quarks take up the same space as one quark.

please stop applying what you know about physics to the quantum level.
It simply no longer works

 

[FearGod]

Microscopic/macroscopic physics =/= quantum physics.

It's been mentioned before, but seriously
Seriously

Anything you may know about physics may or may not work inthe quantum scale.
While point mass objects are impossible macroscopicly, on the quantum level they happen.
A thousand quarks take up the same space as one quark.

please stop applying what you know about physics to the quantum level.
It simply no longer works

Does it make sense to you that this huge universe started with zero volume and infinite density.

How is that related to quantum physics and how it make sense to you that the micro-world (singularity) have been converted and expanded to the a macro-world (cosmos)