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-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
that isn't what i'm talking about
i'll put it this way,
what happened to the golden rule?

The golden rule doesn't say "adapt to everybody's lifestyle regardless of whether it's a healthy way to live or not." There's alot of people demanding just that. People are free to "marry" and love whoever they want in this country. They're not satisfied with that. They want the state and by extension society to recognize it. Now all of a sudden it affects me.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
The golden rule doesn't say "adapt to everybody's lifestyle regardless of whether it's a healthy way to live or not." There's alot of people demanding just that. People are free to "marry" and love whoever they want in this country. They're not satisfied with that. They want the state and by extension society to recognize it. Now all of a sudden it affects me.

the golden rule is, treat others the way you want to be treated.
do you like being persecuted?
 
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waitasec

Veteran Member
Hypothetically speaking of course, would it right to ask people to adapt to a perversion? Could I really appeal to the "golden rule" if people refused?
well from how i see it religion is a perversion. a perversion that twists logic into some sort of justification that would allow someone to ignore the obvious question being asked.
so...
do you like being persecuted?
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
well from how i see it religion is a perversion. a perversion that twists logic into some sort of justification that would allow someone to ignore the obvious question being asked.
so...
do you being persecuted?


You have two sides to the issue. One sees themselves as the unjustly persecuted minority just trying to be recognized. The other sees itself and its society under assault by wickedness and lies. Both sides see themselves as justified. If judgement day is real and something we'll all face, those who are in the wrong will certainly try to appeal to the fact that they were "ignorant" of the truth by virtue of the fact that God didn't "prove" it to them beyond a shadow of a doubt. Will God agree that they have a point? Definately not if it's Yahweh we're going to face
 

Me Myself

Back to my username
eternal soul?

matthew 10:28
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

i do not understand how one cannot continually live in fear if they believe this.
why would anyone want to live in fear?

They believe fear is a virtue "fear God"

Also, they feel this fear makes it more posible to actually outlive biological death of their bodies.

Remember then when you are facing something difficult to accept there are stages:

Denial, anger, negotiation, depression, acceptance.

They generaly stay around negotiation, so instead of acepting they think they´ll die and there is nothing they can do about it, they stick with negotiation.

In negotiation, there IS a way to not be dead for ever. You must spend all this terestrial life in fear. Then, you´ll have eternity of absolute bliss and happiness.

Of course living in fear is one of the least of the unhealthy commitments most mainstream christianity does to feel they have some degree of control on what happens to them when their biological body ceases to be.
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
You have two sides on the issue. One sees themselves as the unjustly persecuted minority just trying to be recognized. The other sees itself and its society under assault by wickedness and lies. Both sides see themselves as justified. If judgement day is real and something we'll all face, those who are in the wrong will certainly try to appeal to the fact that they were "ignorant" of the truth by virtue of the fact that God didn't "prove" it to them beyond a shadow of a doubt. Will God agree that they have a point? Definately not if it's Yahweh we're going to face

will you just answer the question. it's an easy question.

do you enjoy being persecuted?
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
ok now i will respond to this disclaimer... :rolleyes:

You have two sides to the issue. One sees themselves as the unjustly persecuted minority just trying to be recognized.
what exactly are they trying to be recognized for?
is it equality?

The other sees itself and its society under assault by wickedness and lies.

then the other side shouldn't go against the standards they set for themselves...that has absolutely nothing to do with the other side of the coin.

Both sides see themselves as justified.

true...but one side is ordered to respect the other side of the coin, right?

If judgement day is real and something we'll all face, those who are in the wrong will certainly try to appeal to the fact that they were "ignorant" of the truth by virtue of the fact that God didn't "prove" it to them beyond a shadow of a doubt. Will God agree that they have a point? Definately not if it's Yahweh we're going to face

again that has nothing to do with the other side of the coin.
in other words, if you go against the standards for which your religious beliefs has established, you sinned against god...and that is all you should worry about, unless there is a commandment from jesus specifying that christians are to control the way unbelievers live, is there such a thing?
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
what exactly are they trying to be recognized for?
is it equality?

This is really the question at the heart of the debate. One side is claiming that their behavior is equal to that of the other. The other side feels as though they're being pressured to accomodate wickeness.
 
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