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Why be muslim?

psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I think the reason behind it is that Muhammad didn't like the Christians and Jews, so he made his own religion, just as the Mormons mad their religion by Joseph Smith, I think his name is.
 
Zulk-Dharma

Zulk-Dharma

Member
Kirran said:
Does it not also say that Christians will never become Muslims?

And fair enough, this was just what I found recorded to be the mainstream interpretation on WikiIslam.
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Wikiislam.net is notorious for its biased, anti-Islamic half-truths and sometimes outright lies. It rely on minority opinions (such as Wahabi scholars) and inauthentic sources to show Islam in bad light.

These websites I suggest to black-list from ever going to again:

Answering-Muslims
Answering-Islam
Answering-Christianity (it's a "Muslim" website, but a conspiracy website too and it isn't reliable from a scholarly perspective.
Thereligionofpeace
Wikiislam

I suggest reading official Islamic or impartial scholarly sources.

The verses of Quran can be read at Quran.com, in my opinion it is the most authentic translations of the Quran with context.

Historical Background

There was a time in Makkah when although a storm of opposition had arisen in the pagan society of Quraish against the message of Islam preached by the Holy Prophet (upon whom be peace), yet the Quraish chiefs hall not yet lost hope that they would reach some sort of a compromise with him. Therefore, from time to time they would visit him with different proposals of compromise so that he accepted one of them and the dispute between them was brought to an end. In this connection, different traditions have been related in the Hadith.

According to Hadrat Abdullah bin Abbas, the Quraish proposed to the Holy Prophet; "We shall give you so much of wealth that you will become the richest man of Makkah. We shall give you whichever woman you like in marriage. We are prepared to follow and obey you as our leader, only on the condition that you will not speak ill of our gods. If you do not agree to this, we present another proposal which is to your as well as to our advantage."

When the Holy Prophet asked what it was, they said that if he would worship their gods, Lat and Uzza, for a year, they would worship his God for the same space of time. The Holy Prophet said: "Wait awhile; let me see what my Lord commands in this regard."

Thereupon the revelation came down: Qul ya-ayyuhal- kafirun.

Which explains that no one should worship anyone's gods except for the ones they believe in. Hence, "your religion and my religion."

Read more: 109. Surah Al Kafirun (The Disbelievers) - Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi - Tafhim al-Qur'an - The Meaning of the Qur'an
 
Zulk-Dharma

Zulk-Dharma

Member
Islam means submission to God, monotheism. Whoever submits to the One God, accepts the One God alone is by definition a Muslim, therefore, Islam as a religion with dogmas and all that may be predated by other religions, but Islam as what Quran and the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, describe it has virtually existed forever, since it really just means whoever believe in the one omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent (etc.) God.

I suppose the Brahmins of the Vedic religions in ancient India could be defined as "Muslims" since they believe in Brahman, the Ultimate Reality. However, most Hindus agree that Ishavara is the more Hindu equivalent for Allah. However, Allah is understood by all Muslims to be incomprehensible and that we only understand one perspective of Allah that is far more than just that as described in the Quran, therefore the parallel is stronger between these two than with Ishavara.

Therefore, for a Muslim there is nothing that conflicts him from being a Muslim due to this.

That's at least what I have heard from Muslims that I know.
 
Katzpur

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
psychoslice said:
I think the reason behind it is that Muhammad didn't like the Christians and Jews, so he made his own religion, just as the Mormons mad their religion by Joseph Smith, I think his name is.
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FYI, Joseph Smith didn't "make his own religion because he didn't like the Christians and Jews." He was a Christian, and Mormons believe the religion he founded is the re-establishment of the religion originally founded by Jesus Christ but corrupted over time. Since this thread is about Islam, I'll let it go at that.
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Katzpur said:
FYI, Joseph Smith didn't "make his own religion because he didn't like the Christians and Jews." He was a Christian, and Mormons believe the religion he founded is the re-establishment of the religion originally founded by Jesus Christ but corrupted over time. Since this thread is about Islam, I'll let it go at that.
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I certainly don't agree with you, and I didn't say that old Joseph Smith made up his religion because he didn't like the Christians and Jews. please read what I say, and don't jump to conclusions that are not relevant.
 
Katzpur

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
psychoslice said:
I certainly don't agree with you, and I didn't say that old Joseph Smith made up his religion because he didn't like the Christians and Jews. please read what I say, and don't jump to conclusions that are not relevant.
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Sorry if I misunderstood you. In re-reading your post, I still can't see any other way to interpret it. But as I said, this thread is about Islam, not Mormonism. I was merely correcting what appeared to me to be a misstatement. Carry on. I won't get in your way any more. ;)
 
psychoslice

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Katzpur said:
Sorry if I misunderstood you. In re-reading your post, I still can't see any other way to interpret it. But as I said, this thread is about Islam, not Mormonism. I was merely correcting what appeared to me to be a misstatement. Carry on. I won't get in your way any more. ;)
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This thread maybe about Islam, but it doesn't mean we can't use other analogies to try to show what we mean, don't be so narrow minded, be more open in a discussion.
 
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Smart_Guy

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Could be because one finds what they want and agree with, or (personally) believing it is the right religion!

It could be difficult to answer this question. Believing is complicated.
 
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