Why can't people just leave the Jews alone?

[rosends]

If someone took your land. ,then yes you probably would be marching through the streets.

Someone did, and no, we didn't. BTW, was there any marching in the streets of Turkey, or England? They "took" the land, didn't they?

 

[psychoslice]

Someone did, and no, we didn't. BTW, was there any marching in the streets of Turkey, or England? They "took" the land, didn't they?

I don't know about Turkey and England, but I know that land was taken over some years from the Arabs.

 

[rosends]

I don't know about Turkey and England, but I know that land was taken over some years from the Arabs.

Then this is a problem. You are asking about a singular moment and not wondering why it has no historical precedent, but assuming that the singular moment has meaning. Maybe, and I mean this without judgment, you should sit and read about the history of the region stretching back a long time, and then ask questions which you can apply to every phase.

 

[psychoslice]

Then this is a problem. You are asking about a singular moment and not wondering why it has no historical precedent, but assuming that the singular moment has meaning. Maybe, and I mean this without judgment, you should sit and read about the history of the region stretching back a long time, and then ask questions which you can apply to every phase.

Yes and I bet you read the history just the way you want it.

 

[rosends]

Yes and I bet you read the history just the way you want it.

do you know of history texts which don't include the Ottoman empire or the British mandate? Do they skip the Crusades also? And the Byzantines? Those are the ones I read about in my books.

 

[psychoslice]

do you know of history texts which don't include the Ottoman empire or the British mandate? Do they skip the Crusades also? And the Byzantines? Those are the ones I read about in my books.

You can believe what you want to believe, but please leave others alone.

 

[rosends]

You can believe what you want to believe, but please leave others alone.

The existence of the Ottoman empire is a matter of my belief? That's fabulous!

 

[wizanda]

So IOW, you didn't read it.

Read it a second time to be sure....
Replied to what it states as the reason for the Talmud's stupid mistake to begin with, and showed using the Tanakh, why it was wrong....Things like that shouldn't exist within the Talmud, if they're blatantly wrong to begin with.

Ah I see the illusion that you are a Jew persists.
Let me guess some crackpot "Jew in mind/heart/belief" crap?

Already said; just genealogy somewhere in the past.

 

[Curious George]

Read it a second time to be sure....
Replied to what it states as the reason for the Talmud's stupid mistake to begin with, and showed using the Tanakh, why it was wrong....Things like that shouldn't exist within the Talmud, if they're blatantly wrong to begin with.

Already said; just genealogy somewhere in the past.

You simply cannot read, only superficially the Talmud, and then try to ignore the rest of the Jewish writings. It is worse when you try to quote it while ignoring rabbinical teachings and debate on the subject. What you have done would be akin to a prosecutor saying that self defense argument was just some dumb rationalization for a stupid law that shouldn't be a law if people were actually allowed to "kill." It might be one thing if you could cite a rabbi or some Jewish group using the text you cited to assert such a meaning, but there is none. So, why would you try to argue that is what Jewish people believe, when clearly it is not?

 

[wizanda]

So, why would you try to argue that is what Jewish people believe, when clearly it is not?

Only posted the quote from the Talmud, everyone else started arguing about it.

 

[Curious George]

Only posted the quote from the Talmud, everyone else started arguing about it.

Fair enough, but why post that quote in this discussion?

 

[wizanda]

Fair enough, but why post that quote in this discussion?

Because so far, find that the condescending attitude portrayed by many Rabbinic Jews, is partially from the statements within the Talmud, which can easily be interpreted as racist, and bigoted.

"Zionists believe Jewish lives are much more valuable than Palestinian/Arab lives"

So when Lyndon said this about only Palestinians, the text suggest it applies to everyone....And so far no Rabbinic Jew I've met has proved it wrong, unfortunately.

 

[Curious George]

Because so far, find that the condescending attitude portrayed by many Rabbinic Jews, is partially from the statements within the Talmud, which can easily be interpreted as racist, and bigoted.

So when Lyndon said this about only Palestinians, the text suggest it applies to everyone....And so far no Rabbinic Jew I've met has proved it wrong, unfortunately.

How do you find that it is partly related to the statement?

What condescending attitude?

Yes, the text could suggest that if it is read superficially, out of context, and against the grain of Jewish teaching.

 

[rosends]

Only posted the quote from the Talmud, everyone else started arguing about it.

actually, you didn't. If you had, what you posted would have been in Aramaic. Also, you would have quoted a translation that does not include the word "beasts" as it is not in the actual text.

And, by your logic, I can quote the Bill of Rights which says, quite clearly, "Congress shall make no law" and claim that, therefore, congress is not allowed to make any law.

 

[rosends]

Because so far, find that the condescending attitude portrayed by many Rabbinic Jews, is partially from the statements within the Talmud, which can easily be interpreted as racist, and bigoted.

So when Lyndon said this about only Palestinians, the text suggest it applies to everyone....And so far no Rabbinic Jew I've met has proved it wrong, unfortunately.

You take from it what you want to see. The text is making an argument about certain laws of ritual purity. You want to take that as a statement about humanity. Fact is, you are wrong and don't want to be taught what the text actually means because you need the lies to justify your hate.

 

[wizanda]

How do you find that it is partly related to the statement?

Because there are numerous verses within the Talmud, that come across as Gentiles only being slaves, and beasts compared to Jews.

What condescending attitude?

Have a full read of some of these replies in this thread:

If you really had any interest in learning

when you are corrected?

Having spent over 10 years speaking with religious peoples about the Christian Biblical deception, mainly received a condescending attitude from Rabbinic Jews, it is a small minority that doesn't.

Yes, the text could suggest that if it is read superficially, out of context, and against the grain of Jewish teaching.

Fair enough cheery picking one sentence out of context is annoying; yet when there are so many racist statements by different Rabbis, it's hard not to come to that assessment.

 

[rosends]

Because there are numerous verses within the Talmud, that come across as Gentiles only being slaves, and beasts compared to Jews.

Maybe to those who don't care to learn them, and like to pull partial ideas out of context. To others, there aren't. To those who like superficial reviews and cherry picked lines, the Constitution has a variety of bizarre statements.

Having spent over 10 years speaking with religious peoples about the Christian Biblical deception, mainly received a condescending attitude from Rabbinic Jews, it is a small minority that doesn't.

So you argue with what you see as a deception by engaging in a deception instead of focusing on educating and clarifying. I'll update your card.

 

[Mistah Bunneh]

Actually this thread is about Jews. Hebrews is a word with a different history.

The books of the Old Testament were written and compiled by Jews and is widely considered the early history of the Jewish people so yes Hebrew/Jew is one in the same no matter how you want to spin it. The point is is that the Hebrew stock deserve no special victim status anymore than anyone else.

 

[BSM1]

You're absolutely right, but the problem is, so far in Israel its been so one sided against the Palestinians that its too late to ask the Palestinians to change, its time for the Israelis to take the first step to peace, evacuate the settlements, build a wall if they have to, but Palestinians have just as much right to half of Israel as Jews do, we need a two state solution, I think the whole world knows by now that a one state solution will always heavily favour the Jews, and it isn't working, its not going to work, and it never could work, seriously the Jews have offended the Arabs so badly now, that there's no getting along with Jews running everything, the Israeli leaders are racist and express hatred for Palestinians, same can be said for most Palestinians, the leaders are racist and express hatred for the Jews. so divide, split it up, build a wall 300 ft tall Have your ethnically pure Jewish homeland, and have the common human decency to give the Palestinians half of what they deserve, the country of Israel.

PS Hamas and Abbas will accept peace if you give them half they country as they deserve.

That was tried once with Arafat back at Camp David. He was going to get almost everything he wanted including a Palestinian state, but evidently that's not what the Palestinians really want.

 

[MARCELLO]

Canada, the news is just an-anti muslim circlejerk tbh.

Thankfully we just got a liberal PM

I was just joking,I now that you are just a next wonderful girl.