Sultan Of Swing
Well-Known Member
Clement of Alexandria was not Jesus of Nazareth -- nor even the biblical writers. "Natural aversion to women" =/= "homosexual orientation." Jesus was not talking about homosexual orientation when he speaks of "eunuchs." And to say that he was is dishonest and naive.
C'mon, Sultan -- you're a better man than this!
Yes, that would be dishonest and naive. I did not mean to imply Jesus was referring specifically to homosexuals, but could you not see the similarity between a natural orientation towards homosexuality and a natural aversion toward women, as Jesus was pointing out? The idea that there were men who were averse to women was not an alien thought for the Biblical writers. I do not see how men having natural homosexual inclinations would have influenced the Biblical writers much either.
Matthew 19:12 is Jesus' words in response to the apostles' notion that it is better for one to not marry, after Jesus condemns divorce, and Jesus points out that marriage is not for everyone because there are those who are born eunuchs.
Most people have natural inclinations toward some thing or another. Some people naturally have anger management issues or are prone to alcoholism. I don't see how this would have affected the Biblical writers' thoughts in any way, or vindicated the homosexual act for them. I mean, if the Apostle Paul knew for certain that there were those who had natural homosexual inclinations, do you really think that would have changed his or the other apostles' views on the homosexual acts themselves?