Why do Americans hate Hillary so much?

[columbus]

I never expected to get an answer that suggests women could deserve rape.
Nothing personal......but I'm moving away from you....up range....behind cover.....

Give your balls to @Wirey for safekeeping in these interesting times.

I would offer to hold them for you. But that's a little too gay for my tastes.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Give your balls to @Wirey for safekeeping in these interesting times.

No way!
He'd do things to them.

I would offer to hold them for you. But that's a little too gay for my tastes.

For mine too.

 

[Lighthouse]

You'd have to ask her supporters if they expect Bill to have a role in governing.

I just remembered an aspect of sexism which reared its ugly head when Madeleine Albright admonished women voters that there's a special place in Hell if they don't vote for Hillary.
I wonder how she came by this knowledge, or how it would be enforced?

When fear is introduced, when the element of no longer fitting in is introduced, the capability for mental assaults and mental control of vulnerable and guillable minds follows. I suppose that's the only way to enforce?

Clearly, Madeleine wants power and control over other women's minds. I'm guessing she came to that knowledge by seeing it working on others firsthand.

 

[Revoltingest]

When fear is introduced, when the element of no longer fitting in is introduced, the capability for mental assaults and mental control of vulnerable and guillable minds follows. I suppose that's the only way to enforce?

Clearly, Madeleine wants power and control over other women's minds. I'm guessing she came to that knowledge by seeing it working on others firsthand.

My opinion is that Old Scratch finds her absurd & presumptuous.
She would know His ways?
Piffle!

 

[Perditus]

Why do Americans hate Hillary so much?

She's a greedy, lying, murderous, traitorous, phony, sociopathic snake.

Does that clear it up for ya'?

 

[Revoltingest]

She's a greedy, lying, murderous, traitorous, phony, sociopathic snake.

Does that clear it up for ya'?

It seems unfair to snakes.

 

[columbus]

She's a greedy, lying, murderous, traitorous, phony, sociopathic snake.

Does that clear it up for ya'?

I would rather have her between me and Wall Street and Putin than Trump,
because that's exactly what she is. Trump is not, he's a wienie likely to start the kind of war because he bumbles into one, clueless as he is.

He actually thought that having a Twitter battle with Machado would help get him elected. How clueless can a presidential candidate get?
Tom

 

[Perditus]

@columbus,

I don't like Trump either. He has his own issues, already laid out plainly by other members and you.

I'm a Libertarian at heart, but the candidate in that position is a goof too.

 

[Sonofason]

A friend of mine was in USA (Arizona) and she told me that many people she talked to told her they are going to vote for Trump although they don't like him - just to prevent Hillary from becoming president.
As a European I find this hard to understand.
What exactly is the problem with Hillary?

No one has a great deal of admiration for people who lie to their faces. Hillary has a tremendous flaw. She's a habitual liar and fraud.

 

[idav]

No one has a great deal of admiration for people who lie to their faces. Hillary has a tremendous flaw. She's a habitual liar and fraud.

Trump is a habitual teller of fairy tales like when he was going off about people having abortions to the very last day of term. Partial birth abortions are illegal, but fairy tales do make for good scare tactics.

 

[Sonofason]

Trump is a habitual teller of fairy tales like when he was going off about people having abortions to the very last day of term. Partial birth abortions are illegal, but fairy tales do make for good scare tactics.

Trump did not lie, but you are. The fact that partial birth abortions are illegal has not stopped planned parenthood from performing them. The fact that the sale of fetal body parts is illegal did not stop planned parenthood from discussing it. Trump is exonerated, but you are not.

 

[idav]

Trump did not lie, but you are. The fact that partial birth abortions are illegal has not stopped planned parenthood from performing them. The fact that the sale of fetal body parts is illegal did not stop planned parenthood from discussing it. Trump is exonerated, but you are not.

Things being illegal is very important and Trump saying " If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month you can take baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby."
That is categorically false and only wishes to misrepresent his opponent using scare tactics.
that is why Hillary said "Well that is not what happens in these cases. And using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate"

I could tell that as soon as Trump was saying it, it sounded ridiculous.

 

[Sonofason]

Things being illegal is very important and Trump saying " If you go with what Hillary is saying, in the ninth month you can take baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby."
That is categorically false and only wishes to misrepresent his opponent using scare tactics.
that is why Hillary said "Well that is not what happens in these cases. And using that kind of scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate"

I could tell that as soon as Trump was saying it, it sounded ridiculous.

If you listen and hear Hillary Clinton clearly, that is what she is proposing.

 

[idav]

If you listen and hear Hillary Clinton clearly, that is what she is proposing.

I know pro-lifers just loved Trumps horrid description but its misinformation.

No, its nothing like what Trump describes, even in ultra rare cases where something like an abortion is medically necessary for wanted pregnancies so late in term. At that point god made the decision for the mother.

 

[Underhill]

When I point out that Hillary actively suppressed & discredited women who accused Bill of assaulting them, Democrats ignore this. They then play the female victim card, falsely claiming the criticism is instead about what Bill did. (Bill isn't running for prez. He'd only be First Gentleman. What an inappropriate designation, eh.) If anything, her gender is a huge advantage, since no man who was a sexual assault enabler would remain politically viable.

So you think people would like her if she had divorced bill? I suspect the attacks would continue exactly the same way except that in that instance, it would be republicans playing, "stand by your man...".

 

[Underhill]

Note that your quote of my post is incomplete, & alters my meaning greatly.

Including women who claim to have been raped by Bill?
Did they deserve it?

If he didn't do it then yes.

She is his wife. Do you honestly expect her to side with the accuser?

I just don't get this logic.

 

[Revoltingest]

So you think people would like her if she had divorced bill?

I hadn't considered that.
I suppose some would like it.
Some would dislike it.

I suspect the attacks would continue exactly the same way except that in that instance, it would be republicans playing, "stand by your man...".

Some attacks would.
But my criticism would remain.
She enabled his sexual assaults, & demeaned the "bimbos" who accused him.
This wrong is not made right by her being female, by divorcing Bill, or by any of Trump's sins.

Remember though....this isn't high on my list of reasons to vote against her.
To abuse a few people pales in comparison to the potential carnage of war.
Our country has killed so very very many who didn't deserve it.
That matters more.

 

[Revoltingest]

If he didn't do it then yes.

She couldn't know that he didn't do it.

She is his wife. Do you honestly expect her to side with the accuser?

Of course not.
That would be absurd.
But you ignore something by not asking about the more relevant point.
She could've defended him by defending him.
But she chose to attack them by painting them as worthless...women who were low class,
& not worthy of being taken seriously. Their claims were mere "bimbo eruptions".
This says a great deal about her character.

I just don't get this logic.

I know.
But I'll keep trying.

 

[Underhill]

She couldn't know that he didn't do it.

How does that matter?

Of course not.
That would be absurd.
But you ignore something by not asking about the more relevant point.
She could've defended him by defending him.
But she chose to attack them by painting them as worthless...women who were low class,
& not worthy of being taken seriously. Their claims were mere "bimbo eruptions".
This says a great deal about her character.

No, it says a great deal about her anger. You and yours don't seem to understand the situation. This couple has been under constant attack for decades. After being slandered left and right, I can completely understand her anger. And it's truly absurd coming from Trump voter. Trump has said worse over much less. That says a great deal about his character.

I know.
But I'll keep trying.

I know.

 

[Underhill]

I hadn't considered that.
I suppose some would like it.
Some would dislike it.

Some attacks would.
But my criticism would remain.
She enabled his sexual assaults, & demeaned the "bimbos" who accused him.
This wrong is not made right by her being female, by divorcing Bill, or by any of Trump's sins.

Remember though....this isn't high on my list of reasons to vote against her.
To abuse a few people pales in comparison to the potential carnage of war.
Our country has killed so very very many who didn't deserve it.
That matters more.

I know, and Trump wants to send more young men into Iraq to fight ISIS.