Why do Athiests challenge Thiests?

[Slapstick]

All right... what led you to the conclusion that Catholics aren't Christian?

I know some Catholics. If you mention the word Christian in front of them they will just ask: What the hell is a Christian supposed to be? Catholics don’t go around trying to proselytize people like Christians do. They tend to think faith or religion is a personal choice and they do not believe in pushing their beliefs onto other people. To tell you the truth, Catholics don’t like any other branch of religion if it isn’t Catholicism. They would probably be insulted if you called them Christians or anything else besides a Catholic.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Very few Christians do not believe in the Trinity, the only 3 groups I can think of are the Mormons (who I guess you wouldn't consider mormons, the Jehovah Witness [Which i'm starting to think is the category you fall into], and the Unitarians.

Also some Pentecostal groups. And generally speaking, Quakers have enough doctrinal flexibility that individual Quakers wouldn't necessarily have to be trinitarian.

 

[Thana]

Catholics believe their salvation is through faith in God/Jesus. They pray to God/Jesus.

They're Christians.

The distinction you're talking about is Catholicism vs. Protestantism.

A Protestant is a Christian.

 

[Riverwolf]

Or are Eastern Orthodox Christianity, Ethiopian Christianity, Coptic Christianity, Gnostic Christianity, Anglican Christianity, etc. not Christians, either?

 

[Riverwolf]

A Protestant is a Christian.

A Christian is someone who reveres Christ. Protestantism is a collection of otherwise unrelated churches that fit this bill, but doesn't consist of the only churches that fit that bill.

 

[hexler]

As a atheist who generally knows more then most theist, if you needed help understanding your own religion and how it evolved and how the dogma changes with time, I would offer my services.


So the question begs, do you really know everything there is to know about your religion?

Blind people cannot tell about color.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

A Protestant is a Christian.

So is a Catholic.
And an Orthodox Christian.
And a Coptic.

... and on, and on.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Blind people cannot tell about color.

lol interesting coming from someone within the Ba'hai faith...usually they aren't the judgmental type...

 

[Riverwolf]

Blind people cannot tell about color.

The nonreligious aren't necessarily blind to religious experience.

They simply interpret the experience differently.

Is it RED, or BLOOD?

 

[Thana]

So is a Catholic.
And an Orthodox Christian.
And a Coptic.

... and on, and on.

No....

 

[CG Didymus]

Mmm, not essentially.
My God (The Christian God) is pretty much the same God in a lot of faiths.
(Judaism, Muslim, Catholicism etc)

And I've brushed up a fair bit on the others, And decided that they were not for me.

However, the other religions who have different God/s I have not even begun to look at them, So I suppose it's a lack of education about them that keeps me from them.

But no, I don't dismiss other Gods, In fact, I prefer to think we all worship the same God, Just in different ways and with different names.
(This is a personal thought, Not really shared with other religions/Christians)

Since you've "brushed up" on Judaism, what are the differences between what God told the Jews compared to what he told Christians?

 

[Riverwolf]

No....

They revere Christ. Therefore, they are Christian.

 

[Thana]

They revere Christ. Therefore, they are Christian.

If that were true than a Messianic Jew would be classified as a Christian.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No....

I'm sorry if you don't like sharing a label with them, but they are Christian denominations.

If it makes you feel better, you can continue to believe that your particular denomination of Christianity is right and all the other Christian denominations are wrong.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

If that were true than a Messianic Jew would be classified as a Christian.

They are classified as Christians:

Mainstream Christian groups usually accept Messianic Judaism as a form of Christianity.

Messianic Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Thana]

I'm sorry if you don't like sharing a label with them, but they are Christian denominations.

If it makes you feel better, you can continue to believe that your particular denomination of Christianity is right and all the other Christian denominations are wrong.

Who said I thought they were wrong?
I don't remember saying that, But keep going with more assumptions if you like.

 

[Enai de a lukal]

Why do atheists challenge theists? In a word- education.

 

[Riverwolf]

If that were true than a Messianic Jew would be classified as a Christian.

Yuppers.

 

[Thana]

Why do atheists challenge theists? In a word- education.

So thiests are uneducated?

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

So thiests are uneducated?

Well when you go around saying things like Catholics are not Christians, you aren't really make Theists look Good