Thana
Lady
I'm not trolling! Although I think it's kind of ironic that you think I am.
I didn't know that about Messianic Jews, But now I do.
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Why do Athiests challenge Thiests?
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I'm not trolling! Although I think it's kind of ironic that you think I am.
I didn't know that about Messianic Jews, But now I do.
CG Didymus
Veteran Member
Then how do you define a true Christian? And, how did you come to know this is what a true Christian is?
Thana
Lady
Well when you go around saying things like Catholics are not Christians, you aren't really make Theists look Good
Catholics are not Christians.
If you want to get technical, They're a branch of Christianity.
But they are not Christians, They're Catholics.
If they are Christians, Then by that logic I'm also Catholic.
Catholicism is a branch of Christianity but Catholics aren't Christian? :areyoucra
Belgians are Europeans. Swedes are also Europeans. This does not mean that Belgians are Swedes.
Enai de a lukal
Well-Known Member
If education is coming to know the truth, then yes, theists are uneducated with respect to the existence of God- else they wouldn't be theists in the first place.
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Women are humans, but not all humans are women.
Or maybe they are not. Let's roll with it for a while.
Taking for granted that somehow it is possible for quite a sizeable percentage of those who believe in Christ as God not to be Christian after all... what does that say about the importance of belief?
If those many millions are not Christians despite their own sincere efforts, then what point there is in pressuring Atheists into a role that they do not even want?
Eh. Why would you think that?
FranklinMichaelV.3
Well-Known Member
Billions possibly, since even a Christian who proclaims they are save, will still acknowledge that they do not know if someone else is....
Enai de a lukal
Well-Known Member
No, that doesn't follow, as 9-10ths pointed out. Also, if you didn't know that Catholics were also Christians, this is going to blow your mind because they're not the only ones-
List of Christian denominations
Turns out there's all varieties of Christians. Heck, there's even Christian atheists. Whew!
outhouse
Atheistically
Closed minds will never fully understand the life they live
Thana
Lady
If education is coming to know the truth, then yes, theists are uneducated with respect to the existence of God- else they wouldn't be theists in the first place.
But you can say the same about Athiests, They're uneducated with the respect to the existence of God, Else they wouldn't be Athiests.
Because if you knew all the things that a Thiest knew, You wouldn't be Athiest because You'd know there is a God.
Thana
Lady
No, My point is that there is a difference.
They're different religions and the only thing they have in common is Christ.
Most of everything else is different.
So a Christian isn't a Protestant, Else why would we give them a denomination?
Do you atleast see what I'm trying to say people?
The relevant statement in that is the part where you pointed out that the thing they have in common is Christ. This makes them all Christian.
I can't tell what this is supposed to mean.
Not at all.
outhouse
Atheistically
It was the knowledge I gained in real history, and how the bible OT and NT was created and how it evolved that made me who I am. Yes a education on the subject.
Maybe how a Roman Emperor helped to define your god.
Once you see human fingerprints on every part of the biblical text, its hard to go back to believing in Santa Claus.
There is a reality here that theist will not look at, truth and knowledge due to fear, and those that do have open minds, often become atheist or agnostic once a real education on these subjects has set in.
outhouse
Atheistically
What do you really know about this man they call Christ?
Do you understand the books were for the most part written by people who never lived near, nor seen, nor heard a word ever pass through Jesus lips ? This has almost universal acceptance for real credible historians.
Paul has 7 letters that can be attributed to him with certainty, the rest are thought to by later unknown authors. Some trying to soften his extreme stance up.
Which is kind of funny, because if you called an atheist a christian that shares some of the similar values or morals as the teachings of Jesus, they would probably look at you like at you are crazy.
outhouse
Atheistically
At this time lets offer you some real knowledge and see what you do with it.
A Yale university class on the NT.
Enjoy.
Introduction to New Testament History and Literature (Yale, RLST 152); 26-lecture course by Dale B. Martin | Virtual Professors
A Yale university class on the NT.
Enjoy.
Introduction to New Testament History and Literature (Yale, RLST 152); 26-lecture course by Dale B. Martin | Virtual Professors
outhouse
Atheistically
Whats funny is when Christians first started they were called atheist, because they were different.
The Christian atheists probably don't mind being called Christian.