Why do christianity get so much hate?

[GoodAttention]

Although I don't quite understand everything in your post, it is pretty interesting. Few who claim to believe in God and evolution will say why they believe in evolution but are silent about God.

Let us go back to your first comment,

"Now remember that Adam listened to his wife. And his wife listened to a serpent talking".

You qualified your statement further by saying,

"Obvioiusly many are influenced by these utterances".

I am asking for the Jewish interpretation of these (Genesis) utterances, given that I reject the Christian interpretation of "original sin".

 

[YoursTrue]

Let us go back to your first comment,

"Now remember that Adam listened to his wife. And his wife listened to a serpent talking".

You qualified your statement further by saying,

"Obvioiusly many are influenced by these utterances".

I am asking for the Jewish interpretation of these (Genesis) utterances, given that I reject the Christian interpretation of "original sin".

Maybe you can start a thread about that.

 

[YoursTrue]

Let us go back to your first comment,

"Now remember that Adam listened to his wife. And his wife listened to a serpent talking".

You qualified your statement further by saying,

"Obvioiusly many are influenced by these utterances".

I am asking for the Jewish interpretation of these (Genesis) utterances, given that I reject the Christian interpretation of "original sin".

But you have to remember what at least one person here said more or less, "two Jews, three interpretations."

 

[GoodAttention]

But you have to remember what at least one person here said more or less, "two Jews, three interpretations."

At this point I'll take 2/3 Jew and 1 interpretation...

 

[RabbiO]

Probably not as @RabbiO is really old.

Hey, I've called him "my rabbi" for years now-- seriously.

Old? Isn’t the word you meant to use “mature”?

No, @paarsurrey I am not that RabbiO. I am old enough to be that rabbi’s father. I am even older than that rabbi’s father.

 

[Glaurung]

It seems some on this thread basically would end up hating 90% of the world's religions because they don't follow post 1960s Western morality.

Secular progressivism is the predominate faith of this site's userbase. It's to be expected.

 

[metis]

Old? Isn’t the word you meant to use “mature”?

No, so maybe it was "manure"?

BTW, my relatives us to call my maternal grandfather "Mr. Manure", and I didn't really understand the gist of that when I was younger. He was French, and his last name was "Manue" which was anglicized to "Miller" when my great-grandfather emigrated from Quebec to the U.P.

 

[paarsurrey]

Old? Isn’t the word you meant to use “mature”?

No, @paarsurrey I am not that RabbiO. I am old enough to be that rabbi’s father. I am even older than that rabbi’s father.

Thanks for one's input.

Regards

 

[Samael_Khan]

I agree with you that the percent is almost certainly greater today. In 2022 anti-Jewish hate crimes were 55% of religious hate crimes. Since 10/7, I would think that percent has gone up considerably. Punishing all Jews for the actions of the state of Israel is an extremely common form of antisemitism.

The point of my data was to inform the Christian who was complaining about anti-Christian hatred that really, here in the US, Christians have it pretty dang good compared to Jews.

This is not to say that there isn't serious persecution of Christians elsewhere in the world. I would scared to be a Christian if I lived in Nigeria.

FWIW, I do not accept your conclusion that Israel is committing genocide. A claim of genocide would mean they are deliberately trying to exterminate all Palestinians. That is not the case. They are going after Hamas, not Palestinians. Compare this to the Hamas charter, which does indeed call for the killing of all Jews. But that is another discussion for another day.

Your tag below your name says that you love God and your neighbour as yourself. If you are ok with the innocent Palestinians being killed and their buildings demolishes because of the Israeli government, then I take it you wouldn't mind Hamas killing you and those innocents you love to target the Israeli government? (Hypothetically if you lived in Israel of course). Because logically that would be loving yourself the same way you love them.

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Why do christianity get so much hate? It is really frustrating. I am not a christian but I think about christians that get hate just because of the religion they are following. It is so sad

Any religion that seeks to evangelise and convert as many people as possible is naturally and understandably going to rub people the wrong the way.
While I’m completely against prosecuting someone based on their religion, I can empathise with the annoyance people feel at being preached to

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Why do christianity get so much hate? It is really frustrating. I am not a christian but I think about christians that get hate just because of the religion they are following. It is so sad

The Bible is stuffed full of prejudice, bigotry and heinous violence and unreasonable rules. It's fueled the Nazis, drives Westboro Baptist Church, it even has Jesus showing brazen intolerance amd hatred.
And then we get Christians, many if whom want and demand society be behikden to their spiritually primitive beliefs that permit slavery and sex slavery. Christians want to demean us, but one of their "righteous men" offered his own daughteds to a mob for raping.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Your tag below your name says that you love God and your neighbour as yourself. If you are ok with the innocent Palestinians being killed and their buildings demolishes because of the Israeli government, then I take it you wouldn't mind Hamas killing you and those innocents you love to target the Israeli government? (Hypothetically if you lived in Israel of course). Because logically that would be loving yourself the same way you love them.

It hurts me when any innocent person is harmed or dies, whether it is one or a million. It doesn't matter to me their religion, ethnicity, country, or gender.

I am a complex person, who has complex answers for complex questions. It would be a mistake for you to tag me as someone who thinks everything Israel does is okay. Some of the things done by Israelis disturb me, just as some of the things done by Palestinians disturb me.

But when you consider ALL of the very important moral issues involved in the Israel/Palestine conflict, one clearly rises to the top. Jews know from thousands of years of our history, that we cannot trust the nations of the world to protect us from those who wish to marginalize, harm, or destroy us. We need a Jewish state in our ancestral homeland to which we can flee from harm, and where we can forge our own destiny. Since we cannot count on others to defend us, we will defend ourselves.

Thus, while I'm perfectly willing to listen to complaints against specifice Israeli policies, I have absolutely no toleration for anyone who wants to wipe Israel off the map. To me, THAT is a direct threat to all Jews and to me personally, and I will fight it with all that I have.

You responded to my comment that no genocide was going on. However, your reply did not address the quote, which defined genocide. I hope you are aware that your response didn't illustrate genocide.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

At this point I'll take 2/3 Jew and 1 interpretation...

You wish.

 

[Samael_Khan]

It hurts me when any innocent person is harmed or dies, whether it is one or a million. It doesn't matter to me their religion, ethnicity, country, or gender.

I am a complex person, who has complex answers for complex questions. It would be a mistake for you to tag me as someone who thinks everything Israel does is okay. Some of the things done by Israelis disturb me, just as some of the things done by Palestinians disturb me.

But when you consider ALL of the very important moral issues involved in the Israel/Palestine conflict, one clearly rises to the top. Jews know from thousands of years of our history, that we cannot trust the nations of the world to protect us from those who wish to marginalize, harm, or destroy us. We need a Jewish state in our ancestral homeland to which we can flee from harm, and where we can forge our own destiny. Since we cannot count on others to defend us, we will defend ourselves.

Thus, while I'm perfectly willing to listen to complaints against specifice Israeli policies, I have absolutely no toleration for anyone who wants to wipe Israel off the map. To me, THAT is a direct threat to all Jews and to me personally, and I will fight it with all that I have.

You responded to my comment that no genocide was going on. However, your reply did not address the quote, which defined genocide. I hope you are aware that your response didn't illustrate genocide.

Is it right for me to conclude then that it hurts you when innocent Palestinians are being killed by the Israeli government?

I asked the question that I did to bypass the regular tedious back and forth of people attempting to use selective facts to justify their position in the effort to gaslight others.

I want to know how you FEEL about Palestinians, especially the innocent, such as the children. How people express their feelings of Palestinians, just like how people express their feelings about Jews, is one step thay really tells us their agendas towards those groups.

(I personally have no problem with Jews having a land for themselves because I know their history of being persecuted. What I have a problem with is how the Israeli state, with the backing of other governments(as the Israeli state does actually rely on others and not just themselves for defense), has gone about accomplishing this)

 

[YoursTrue]

Is it right for me to conclude then that it hurts you when innocent Palestinians are being killed by the Israeli government?

I asked the question that I did to bypass the regular tedious back and forth of people attempting to use selective facts to justify their position in the effort to gaslight others.

I want to know how you FEEL about Palestinians, especially the innocent, such as the children. How people express their feelings of Palestinians, just like how people express their feelings about Jews, is one step thay really tells us their agendas towards those groups.

(I personally have no problem with Jews having a land for themselves because I know their history of being persecuted. What I have a problem with is how the Israeli state, with the backing of other governments(as the Israeli state does actually rely on others and not just themselves for defense), has gone about accomplishing this)

I wonder if someone loves his neighbor as himself, how close would a neighbor have to be to be considered a neighbor?

 

[Samael_Khan]

I wonder if someone loves his neighbor as himself, how close would a neighbor have to be to be considered a neighbor?

That is a question you should ask the God of the Bible.

 

[Jimmy]

History, pro life, gay sin.

 

[YoursTrue]

That is a question you should ask the God of the Bible.

I go along with Jesus.

 

[YoursTrue]

I wonder if someone loves his neighbor as himself, how close would a neighbor have to be to be considered a neighbor?

You brought it up and I wonder how you think of it. Do you love your neighbor as yourself?

 

[Samael_Khan]

You brought it up and I wonder how you think of it. Do you love your neighbor as yourself?

So the reason why I brought it up is because the poster had it in their tag, and I wanted to see how that aligns with their view of Palestinians.

In terms of peoples human rights and laws, i think i want everybody to be treated the way I would like to be treated, which is why I vote the way I do, which is generally me showing my love for others in a grande sense.

In terms of interpersonal interactions, i am a failure. I do think i succeed on some occasions.