Why do christianity get so much hate?

[IndigoChild5559]

Is it right for me to conclude then that it hurts you when innocent Palestinians are being killed by the Israeli government?

It hurts me when innocent anyone is killed by anyone.

But life is complex. We are often put into the situation where don't have the option to choose good. The best we can manage is the lesser of two evils. We have to weigh all sides. Something will weigh heavier than the rest.

Let me give you a for instance. Innocent children die daily in this country from auto accidents. It's heartbreaking. And while we can lower that death rate by establishing speed limits and dealing harshly with drunk drivers, the only way to stop all the deaths is to get rid of cars. The benefit of cars to human beings, including the lives of children, has to be weighed into the picture. And as horrible as it is, as heart wrenching as it is, the benefit of cars outweighs the harm. So when we hear about these kids dying in car accidents, we feel sad, and then we continue driving our cars.

I want to know how you FEEL about Palestinians, especially the innocent, such as the children.

I feel about Palestinians the way I feel about everyone. They are regular people, just like Americans, just like Jews. Some are very very good. Some are very very evil. Most are just average, kind of like me. Like all people, they are prone to being manipulated, and most don't reason all that great, so yeah, bad decisions. Kind of like me. If I had my way, all Palestinian and Jewish and American children would have wonderful families, a nice home to live in, good food, in a safe neighborhood. Throw in some pets, a swingset in the yard, and decent schools. But I can't give that to them.

(I personally have no problem with Jews having a land for themselves because I know their history of being persecuted. What I have a problem with is how the Israeli state, with the backing of other governments(as the Israeli state does actually rely on others and not just themselves for defense), has gone about accomplishing this)

Okay. I'm game. Tell me how YOU would have created a Jewish state in our ancestral homeland?

 

[YoursTrue]

So the reason why I brought it up is because the poster had it in their tag, and I wanted to see how that aligns with their view of Palestinians.

In terms of peoples human rights and laws, i think i want everybody to be treated the way I would like to be treated, which is why I vote the way I do, which is generally me showing my love for others in a grande sense.

In terms of interpersonal interactions, i am a failure. I do think i succeed on some occasions.

I appreciate your post. I can relate to your last point. I often think of things I have done and said to others that ensure the fact that I am a sinner. Yet I have faith that God is loving and forgiving. Just like in the mosaic law code, there are sins we make we do not even realize. Thank you for your response. You bear out the fact that God is love.

 

[YoursTrue]

So the reason why I brought it up is because the poster had it in their tag, and I wanted to see how that aligns with their view of Palestinians.

In terms of peoples human rights and laws, i think i want everybody to be treated the way I would like to be treated, which is why I vote the way I do, which is generally me showing my love for others in a grande sense.

In terms of interpersonal interactions, i am a failure. I do think i succeed on some occasions.

P.S. we cannot take the place of God. So let me assure you He does things His way but keeps His creation in mind. People and politicians are (can be) sadly influenced by others.

 

[RestlessSoul]

It hurts me when innocent anyone is killed by anyone.

But life is complex. We are often put into the situation where don't have the option to choose good. The best we can manage is the lesser of two evils. We have to weigh all sides. Something will weigh heavier than the rest.

Let me give you a for instance. Innocent children die daily in this country from auto accidents. It's heartbreaking. And while we can lower that death rate by establishing speed limits and dealing harshly with drunk drivers, the only way to stop all the deaths is to get rid of cars. The benefit of cars to human beings, including the lives of children, has to be weighed into the picture. And as horrible as it is, as heart wrenching as it is, the benefit of cars outweighs the harm. So when we hear about these kids dying in car accidents, we feel sad, and then we continue driving our cars.

I feel about Palestinians the way I feel about everyone. They are regular people, just like Americans, just like Jews. Some are very very good. Some are very very evil. Most are just average, kind of like me. Like all people, they are prone to being manipulated, and most don't reason all that great, so yeah, bad decisions. Kind of like me. If I had my way, all Palestinian and Jewish and American children would have wonderful families, a nice home to live in, good food, in a safe neighborhood. Throw in some pets, a swingset in the yard, and decent schools. But I can't give that to them.

Okay. I'm game. Tell me how YOU would have created a Jewish state in our ancestral homeland?

Auto accidents are exactly that - accidents. There’s nothing accidental about what Israel is doing in Gaza and Lebanon.

 

[YoursTrue]

Auto accidents are exactly that - accidents. There’s nothing accidental about what Israel is doing in Gaza and Lebanon.

Really, isn't that something? Of course, there's always "hit or miss" and drunk drivers. Sometimes people get caught, sometimes they don't. People come back from war completely crippled sometimes, brain damaged, life ruined --but you figure that's just how it is, right?

 

[RestlessSoul]

Really, isn't that something? Of course, there's always "hit or miss" and drunk drivers. Sometimes people get caught, sometimes they don't. People come back from war completely crippled sometimes, brain damaged, life ruined --but you figure that's just how it is, right?

No, I don’t figure any such thing. Why on earth would you think that?

 

[Samael_Khan]

It hurts me when innocent anyone is killed by anyone.

But life is complex. We are often put into the situation where don't have the option to choose good. The best we can manage is the lesser of two evils. We have to weigh all sides. Something will weigh heavier than the rest.

Let me give you a for instance. Innocent children die daily in this country from auto accidents. It's heartbreaking. And while we can lower that death rate by establishing speed limits and dealing harshly with drunk drivers, the only way to stop all the deaths is to get rid of cars. The benefit of cars to human beings, including the lives of children, has to be weighed into the picture. And as horrible as it is, as heart wrenching as it is, the benefit of cars outweighs the harm. So when we hear about these kids dying in car accidents, we feel sad, and then we continue driving our cars.

I feel about Palestinians the way I feel about everyone. They are regular people, just like Americans, just like Jews. Some are very very good. Some are very very evil. Most are just average, kind of like me. Like all people, they are prone to being manipulated, and most don't reason all that great, so yeah, bad decisions. Kind of like me. If I had my way, all Palestinian and Jewish and American children would have wonderful families, a nice home to live in, good food, in a safe neighborhood. Throw in some pets, a swingset in the yard, and decent schools. But I can't give that to them.

Okay. I'm game. Tell me how YOU would have created a Jewish state in our ancestral homeland?

I see where you are coming from. It is difficult to guage the agenda of pro-Israeli's when they just argue facts. Same with pro-Palestinians. How they interpret those facts and how they end up viewing the other side determines whether they have good agendas or bad ones. You see Palestinians as regular people showing that you are not the latter. Just wanted to clarify.

If I had to establish a jewish state, I would have started by making good ties with the people alrwady living there. Show them that Jews are their allies by contributing to their society, sharing technology, make it abundantly clear that we want to live in harmony with them, educate the children, invest in local businesses, share power with them in one state, say only positive things about the locals, and when small groups attack us, make sure that we express that we view the majority of the locals as friends. This makes sense especially since jews were living with Christians and muslims in the same place for centuries. Rather than buy out buildings and land, push the locals out, expand our territory into theirs, express that we see them as animals, etc.

 

[Samael_Khan]

I appreciate your post. I can relate to your last point. I often think of things I have done and said to others that ensure the fact that I am a sinner. Yet I have faith that God is loving and forgiving. Just like in the mosaic law code, there are sins we make we do not even realize. Thank you for your response. You bear out the fact that God is love.

I often wish that alot of Christians focused on the important teachings of how they treat others rather than being pharisaic and holding themselves as superior because they follow certain laws. Their ignorance of that blindspot stifles humility and blinds them to their own willful sinning.

As for me, i believe I am where I need to be, follow the law written on my heart that I am aware of at the moment, be guided by the Tao, and give way to continuous spiritual evolution. It is less stressful and depressing for me.

 

[YoursTrue]

No, I don’t figure any such thing. Why on earth would you think that?

Because you are saying in war, "accidents happen," aren't you? Do you think the ones sending bombs know that "accidents will happen"? But I see your point. In war, it's usually one side that starts the carnage, and sometimes the targets fight back. And people are hurt in many ways.

 

[YoursTrue]

I often wish that alot of Christians focused on the important teachings of how they treat others rather than being pharisaic and holding themselves as superior because they follow certain laws. Their ignorance of that blindspot stifles humility and blinds them to their own willful sinning.

As for me, i believe I am where I need to be, follow the law written on my heart that I am aware of at the moment, be guided by the Tao, and give way to continuous spiritual evolution. It is less stressful and depressing for me.

Think about it. Jesus died. He did not "fight back" to save his life. He told his followers (his true followers, that is) that they would be persecuted. There's more, but I'll leave it at that for now. Best to you.

 

[Samael_Khan]

P.S. we cannot take the place of God. So let me assure you He does things His way but keeps His creation in mind. People and politicians are (can be) sadly influenced by others.

I lean more towards the idea that we are apart of God. The Atman is the Brahman. We cannot replace ourselves with ourselves. We deny our true selves and the pleasures and terrors of life throw us on the wayward path. If we were secure within ourselves, we would be brave enough to do the right thing because it wouldn't require any bravery at all.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Because you are saying in war, "accidents happen," aren't you? Do you think the ones sending bombs know that "accidents will happen"? But I see your point. In war, it's usually one side that starts the carnage, and sometimes the targets fight back. And people are hurt in many ways.

You didn’t read what I said at all did you?

I said there was nothing accidental about what Israel are doing

 

[bobhikes]

Why do christianity get so much hate? It is really frustrating. I am not a christian but I think about christians that get hate just because of the religion they are following. It is so sad

They don't practice what they preach. They are trying to enforce their standards on others thru force. If you go by the Christian New Testament the story of Christs life, you are to practice and preach the good word but not interfere with others or governments. Indeed, Christ himself said give to the lord what is his and to Cesear what is Cesear's. Forgiveness, Reconciliation, and Peace are all the main theme's of Christ doctrine, however, sadly it is not what most Christian's practice.

 

[Samael_Khan]

Think about it. Jesus died. He did not "fight back" to save his life. He told his followers (his true followers, that is) that they would be persecuted. There's more, but I'll leave it at that for now. Best to you.

Anybody whose actions oppose the local government and community ideals have a good chance of facing persecution. Which makes persecution not a good sign for being a christian. That is why Evangelicals, Jehovahs Witnesses and various cults, many who oppose each other, say that their persecution is proof that they are the true christians. Some do not fight back while others use other verses to support their fighting back. Non Christians are also persecuted.

Best to you too.

 

[YoursTrue]

You didn’t read what I said at all did you?

I said there was nothing accidental about what Israel are doing

I realize that, but I took it a step further. Nevertheless, there was nothing "accidental" about the initial onslaught, was there?

 

[YoursTrue]

Anybody whose actions oppose the local government and community ideals have a good chance of facing persecution. Which makes persecution not a good sign for being a christian. That is why Evangelicals, Jehovahs Witnesses and various cults, many who oppose each other, say that their persecution is proof that they are the true christians. Some do not fight back while others use other verses to support their fighting back. Non Christians are also persecuted.

Best to you too.

There are those who follow Christ, who refused to fight back or encourage his followers to get even -- fight back, etc. And following that will be interesting circumstances, I believe, from God. There will eventually be peace on earth forever. What about you? What do you think will happen to people by God?

 

[YoursTrue]

Anybody whose actions oppose the local government and community ideals have a good chance of facing persecution. Which makes persecution not a good sign for being a christian. That is why Evangelicals, Jehovahs Witnesses and various cults, many who oppose each other, say that their persecution is proof that they are the true christians. Some do not fight back while others use other verses to support their fighting back. Non Christians are also persecuted.

Best to you too.

I'm really not sure what you're saying here. Would you say every national government is good?

 

[Samael_Khan]

There are those who follow Christ, who refused to fight back or encourage his followers to get even -- fight back, etc. And following that will be interesting circumstances, I believe, from God. There will eventually be peace on earth forever. What about you? What do you think will happen to people by God?

I don't believe in a monotheistic God, so your question doesn't apply to me

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't believe in a monotheistic God, so your question doesn't apply to me

You don't believe in a "monotheistic" God...ok...

 

[Samael_Khan]

I'm really not sure what you're saying here. Would you say every national government is good?

To clarify, whether a government is good or bad or inbetween, if you go against their laws or ideals there is a good chance that they will persecute you.