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Why do christianity get so much hate?

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Thanks. I aimed to practice self control as a christian but I wasnt given the tools to do so. For example, deep breathing is a basic and effective tool for contolling yourself. That tool has proven to help me follow through with the fruits of the spirit better.
I can understand that about deep breathing. It is good to realize that many who call themselves Christian probably are ready to fight very soon. Meaning this country (the USA) is a bit nervous about the next few days. At least I am.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Do the survey and get back to me. Pretty sure my condemnation of all parties to this horror has been equal and unequivocal.
I doubt that. If we eliminate those posts where you put down both Hamas and Israel, and line up those posts which condemn only Israel, or only Hamas, I think we would see a stark difference. I say this based on my general experience with those who post on this topic. Could you be an exception to the rule? Sure. But what are the odds?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Not any more, anyhow... right?
More than one thing went on back in 1948.
  • Arabs who left of their own volition were simply not allowed to return.
  • Arabs living in communities that refused to accept Israeli rule were deported. Those communities that negotiated a surrender and acknowledged the state of Israel were allowed to stay.
  • Communities such as the Druze and Circassians that had shown very little opposition were allowed to stay.
IOW the vast majority of those who were involuntarily deported were enemies of Israel. Israel simply could not maintain its own safety and allow these enemies to stay.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
More than one thing went on back in 1948.
  • Arabs who left of their own volition were simply not allowed to return.
  • Arabs living in communities that refused to accept Israeli rule were deported. Those communities that negotiated a surrender and acknowledged the state of Israel were allowed to stay.
  • Communities such as the Druze and Circassians that had shown very little opposition were allowed to stay.
IOW the vast majority of those who were involuntarily deported were enemies of Israel. Israel simply could not maintain its own safety and allow these enemies to stay.

I'd say you really need an asterisk on "of their own volition."

And hopefully you recognize the difference between "Israelis don't push non-Jews out" and "Israelis push non-Jews out... for what I think are good reasons."
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
I doubt that. If we eliminate those posts where you put down both Hamas and Israel, and line up those posts which condemn only Israel, or only Hamas, I think we would see a stark difference. I say this based on my general experience with those who post on this topic. Could you be an exception to the rule? Sure. But what are the odds?
Purported Christianity has done a lot of damage.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
The main flaw in the Abrahamic faiths, is their exclusivism, which gives them a superiority complex and undermines the good qualities that they strive for. One cannot be humble and have a superiority complex at the same time. It causes people to be arrogant in their displays of humility and passive aggressive when they attempt to turn the other cheek.
True

IF these Christians even had a little awareness, they would stop their detrimental behavior (Spiritual arrogance) immediately

As all Scriptures make abundantly clear:
1) Worldly arrogance: hard to cure mental disease
2) Spiritual arrogance (ego): even God can't cure


The Abrahamic Religions their exclusiveness is the root cause of all the problems in the world; easy to see, even easy to prove, unless you suffer from Spiritual arrogance, which blinds, hence you can't see the Truth
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The main flaw in the Abrahamic faiths, is their exclusivism,
Pardon me, but please don't put Judaism into the same basket. We are not exclusivist. No one NEEDS to become a Jew. We are not the "one true religion." We are perfectly fine with others worshiping God in their own way. Now, if someone has an affinity for the Jewish so deep that they wish to join us, we do welcome them in. But we don't push our religion on others. We don't proselytize.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I don't have to watch the video to know that it is a bunch of sad hogwash. And I am a Christian
You prove the point being made in this clip.

You (all Jehova Witnesses I've met so far) belittle other Faiths by claiming "Jesus is the only Savior for all of us), hence you suffer from Spiritual Arrogance.

All Scriptures declare that Spiritual arrogance is the root cause off all the suffering caused on earth. Sadly the Scriptures also declare that the Spiritual Arrogance (ego) disease is incurable; even God "can not" cure it
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
I can understand that about deep breathing. It is good to realize that many who call themselves Christian probably are ready to fight very soon. Meaning this country (the USA) is a bit nervous about the next few days. At least I am.
Are you referring to evangelicals and the US election?
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Are you under the mistaken impression that Israelis push non-Jews out? Not the case. Arab-Israelis have the same rights under the laws as Jews. In fact, there are Arab-Israelis in the Knesset, as they participate in the governance of Israel.
Thats like saying that a police force isn't racist towards a certain group because they have representatives of the targeted group in their force.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Pardon me, but please don't put Judaism into the same basket. We are not exclusivist. No one NEEDS to become a Jew. We are not the "one true religion." We are perfectly fine with others worshiping God in their own way. Now, if someone has an affinity for the Jewish so deep that they wish to join us, we do welcome them in. But we don't push our religion on others. We don't proselytize.
If we read the Tanakh, we see high levels of exclusivism amongst the Israelites which was driven by the idea of them being God's chosen people. I know that there are many Jews today who aren't this way. But I know of quite a few religiously jewish families who aren't welcoming of outsiders into their families and gay people in their families etc.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Are you referring to evangelicals and the US election?
Let me put it this way, although it is not exclusive -- I wouldn't be surprised if there is violence and I am quite sure many who commit such violence would consider themselves Christian.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
If we read the Tanakh, we see high levels of exclusivism amongst the Israelites which was driven by the idea of them being God's chosen people. I know that there are many Jews today who aren't this way. But I know of quite a few religiously jewish families who aren't welcoming of outsiders into their families and gay people in their families etc.
The Israelites often had a very hard time, despite the covenant God made with Abraham, followed by many hardships and disasters.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
True

IF these Christians even had a little awareness, they would stop their detrimental behavior (Spiritual arrogance) immediately

As all Scriptures make abundantly clear:
1) Worldly arrogance: hard to cure mental disease
2) Spiritual arrogance (ego): even God can't cure


The Abrahamic Religions their exclusiveness is the root cause of all the problems in the world; easy to see, even easy to prove, unless you suffer from Spiritual arrogance, which blinds those afflicted, hence they can't see the Truth
Their spiritual arrogance is blinding. It is rooted in their emotionally driven prejudice, which is why most can't be reasoned with. This is why they have so many different and often conflicting beliefs because the facts arent their spiritual base but rather the prejudice is. Which is why arguing with faacts is pointless.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Let me put it this way, although it is not exclusive -- I wouldn't be surprised if there is violence and I am quite sure many who commit such violence would consider themselves Christian.
Certainly. But I am sure the evangelicals would assume that they are saved and are doing the right thing for Gods sake. I mean don't they consider Trump a Cyrus figure these days?
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
The Israelites often had a very hard time, despite the covenant God made with Abraham, followed by many hardships and disasters.
They did yes. But, as per their Gods orders, they had to oppress quite a few people both outside and inside their group because they were gods chosen and what ever he says goes.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Certainly. But I am sure the evangelicals would assume that they are saved and are doing the right thing for Gods sake. I mean don't they consider Trump a Cyrus figure these days?
At this point I conclude that (1) we all must make up our minds based on evidence, and (2) it is God who judges each one. I don't believe in the usual concept of hell, so do not believe in the truthfulness of that as taught and believed by many.
 
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