Why do Gentiles assume they should follow the ten commandments?

[Shermana]

One wonders if it's generally understood that prophecy =/= future-prediction?

It kinda specifically says in the Torah that a Prophet will be known if the events he predicts comes to pass, and if the events he predicts don't come to pass, he gets a free bevy of rocks to the skull. So any less of a definition flies in the face of what the text says a prophet is to be tested by. And basically Isaiah and Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Zechariah and the rest are chock full of future predictions. Anything less is a revisionist attempt to redefine what "prophecy" entails in the Biblical sense. You have read the writings of the prophets, yes?

 

[sojourner]

It kinda specifically says in the Torah that a Prophet will be known if the events he predicts comes to pass, and if the events he predicts don't come to pass, he gets a free bevy of rocks to the skull. So any less of a definition flies in the face of what the text says a prophet is to be tested by. And basically Isaiah and Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Zechariah and the rest are chock full of future predictions. Anything less is a revisionist attempt to redefine what "prophecy" entails in the Biblical sense. You have read the writings of the prophets, yes?

But the prediction is not the goal of the prophecy. It's a "happy by-product." Prophecy is more about speaking God's word -- about revealing "the way things are," according to God. "The way things are" is borne out in the predictions becoming realized.

 

[sojourner]

I would give a Frubal for this post, if I could.

I gave him one for you.

 

[Shermana]

But the prediction is not the goal of the prophecy. It's a "happy by-product." Prophecy is more about speaking God's word -- about revealing "the way things are," according to God. "The way things are" is borne out in the predictions becoming realized.

With this I agree. The point of the future predictions is to usually (not always though) to say the Divine assessment of the present situation. Moses, the greatest of the prophets, was not about making predictions but letting the immediate Divine WIll be known.

 

[sojourner]

With this I agree. The point of the future predictions is to usually (not always though) to say the Divine assessment of the present situation. Moses, the greatest of the prophets, was not about making predictions but letting the immediate Divine WIll be known.

I didn't see any of the immediate Divine Will in Roberto's rant. I saw a lot of Jeanne Dixon, and not much Isaiah.

 

[Harmonious]

I gave him one for you.

Thank you.

 

[Levite]

I didn't see any of the immediate Divine Will in Roberto's rant. I saw a lot of Jeanne Dixon, and not much Isaiah.

If I could frubal this twice, I would.

 

[roberto]

Luk 17:26 "Also, at the time of the Son of Man, it will be just as it was at the time of Noach.
Luk 17:27 People ate and drank, and men and women married, right up until the day Noach entered the ark; then the flood came and destroyed them all.

 

[Zardoz]

It kinda specifically says in the Torah that a Prophet will be known if the events he predicts comes to pass, and if the events he predicts don't come to pass, he gets a free bevy of rocks to the skull...

Only in regard to a positive decree. A negative decree does not discredit a prophet if it fails to occur, as G-d's wraith can be prevented. (Jonah)

 

[Harmonious]

Only in regard to a positive decree. A negative decree does not discredit a prophet if it fails to occur, as G-d's wraith can be prevented. (Jonah)

:yes:

 

[sojourner]

Luk 17:26 "Also, at the time of the Son of Man, it will be just as it was at the time of Noach.
Luk 17:27 People ate and drank, and men and women married, right up until the day Noach entered the ark; then the flood came and destroyed them all.

But that's hardly a prediction. When haven't people eaten and drunk? When haven't they gotten married? What do you suppose Luke is saying here?

 

[roberto]

But that's hardly a prediction. When haven't people eaten and drunk? When haven't they gotten married? What do you suppose Luke is saying here?

Hmmnn Do you not understand your own[christian] Bible ?

 

[sojourner]

Hmmnn Do you not understand your own[christian] Bible ?

 

[roberto]

It is not about Noah , but about the passivenessof people whilst Noah was building the boat, getting ready for rain that never was/existed in their time.

 

[sojourner]

It is not about Noah , but about the passivenessof people whilst Noah was building the boat, getting ready for rain that never was/existed in their time.

Ok. People have always been passive. How is this prophetic? If I say, "The sky is blue," that's not prophetic.

 

[roberto]

Ok. People have always been passive. How is this prophetic? If I say, "The sky is blue," that's not prophetic.

Dont just read it .......Study it:


Luk 17:26 As it happened in the days of Noah, even so will it be also in the days of the Son of Man.

If you don't know what "the days of the son of man" means the Google it.

 

[Harmonious]

Dont just read it .......Study it:


Luk 17:26 As it happened in the days of Noah, even so will it be also in the days of the Son of Man.

If you don't know what "the days of the son of man" means the Google it.

Actually, I'd like to hear what YOU say they are.

Anyone can look up a verse. The spin you are trying to share is unique to the poster who posts it.

 

[sojourner]

Dont just read it .......Study it:


Luk 17:26 As it happened in the days of Noah, even so will it be also in the days of the Son of Man.

If you don't know what "the days of the son of man" means the Google it.

If you don't know what the term "prophecy" means, there's no help for you in this thread.

 

[Shermana]

To what extent do gentiles not want to follow the Law? What is such a burden? Is switching to Turkey bacon a burden? It's the bacon isn't it.

 

[sojourner]

To what extent do gentiles not want to follow the Law? What is such a burden? Is switching to Turkey bacon a burden? It's the bacon isn't it.

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