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Why do muslims hate democracy

Shad

Veteran Member
Response: And an appointment to lead his party is an election. So your own logic continues to debunk you and make my point.

No an appoint of party leader is only that of party leader. It is also restricted to the party only. No one outside the party has a vote. Appoint of Chancellor was done by the President which did not require a vote.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Response: And if choosing the best for a job is discrimination, then according to your logic, discrimination is a good thing. So your point is pointless.
Discrimination is never a good thing, because it's always a dehumanizing act, that dismisses the worth of one or some, based on some arbitrary, subjective standard. It turns individuals into objects that can be devalued and dismissed.

Your point is pointless, unless you're willing to concede that Allah does not value most human beings.
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
No an appoint of party leader is only that of party leader. It is also restricted to the party only. No one outside the party has a vote. Appoint of Chancellor was done by the President which did not require a vote.

Response: And the authority to appoint is still given by the majority.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The unfounded, highly biased, and subjective opinions presented here as a defense of Islam are simply not up to the task of refuting historical evidence and logical argument.

In other words, Islam isn't "the only right religion" based upon "because Al says so."

Give it up, Cowboy. Your attempt is not looking good for Islam here.
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Discrimination is never a good thing, because it's always a dehumanizing act, that dismisses the worth of one or some, based on some arbitrary, subjective standard. It turns individuals into objects that can be devalued and dismissed.

Your point is pointless, unless you're willing to concede that Allah does not value most human beings.

Response: Yet choosing someone based on what is best is not discrimination or dehumanizing, for it is logical to choose the best for a job.

So your logic continues to fail and shows not only the greatness of Allah but exposes your ideology as dehumanizing and unjust.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Personally, I think Fatihah is doing a great job showing the real face of Islam. The reader would be wise to pay very close attention.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Response: And the authority to appoint is still given by the majority.
But that's not your argument. Your argument is that Hitler was elected by a majority. Fact: he wasn't. And no amount of wishing or twisting terms can magically make it otherwise.


Unless you want to change your argument. In which case it would no longer support the point you were making.
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Personally, I think Fatihah is doing a great job showing the real face of Islam. The reader would be wise to pay very close attention.

Response: And with your unsound responses, the reader will see the beauty of Islam better as they pay closer attention to how it compares the principles of Islam.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Response: Likewise.
Somehow "evidence to the contrary" does not constitute a vapid "because I said" argument. Man up and just admit you're wrong on the point you were trying to make. Everyone here knows you were wrong. You're just digging the "embarrassment hole" deeper for yourself.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Response: Yet choosing someone based on what is best is not discrimination or dehumanizing, for it is logical to choose the best for a job.

So your logic continues to fail and shows not only the greatness of Allah but exposes your ideology as dehumanizing and unjust.
Tying "what is best" to "religious affiliation" (where government is concerned) is creating an arbitrary standard that serves to dismiss and dehumanize all who don't conform to the artificial standard of "normal." IOW, it's discrimination.
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
But that's not your argument. Your argument is that Hitler was elected by a majority. Fact: he wasn't. And no amount of wishing or twisting terms can magically make it otherwise.


Unless you want to change your argument. In which case it would no longer support the point you were making.

Response: And your own words that he was appointed supports the fact that he was elected. So unless you want to change your argument, then you redundancy continues to make my point.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Somehow "evidence to the contrary" does not constitute a vapid "because I said" argument. Man up and just admit you're wrong on the point you were trying to make. Everyone here knows you were wrong. You're just digging the "embarrassment hole" deeper for yourself.
But he is so good at it. I say we just offer him a contract on a backhoe. :)

backhoe-loaders.jpg
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Somehow "evidence to the contrary" does not constitute a vapid "because I said" argument. Man up and just admit you're wrong on the point you were trying to make. Everyone here knows you were wrong. You're just digging the "embarrassment hole" deeper for yourself.

Response: Yet your own nonsensical statement that an appointment and an election is two different things shows otherwise. Thus the embarrassment is on you.
 

Al-Fatihah

Muslim
Tying "what is best" to "religious affiliation" (where government is concerned) is creating an arbitrary standard that serves to dismiss and dehumanize all who don't conform to the artificial standard of "normal." IOW, it's discrimination.

Response: And if choosing someone best for a job is discrimination, then according to your logic, discrimination is a good thing. So your point remains as it was, pointless.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Response: And your own words that he was appointed supports the fact that he was elected. So unless you want to change your argument, then you redundancy continues to make my point.
<Slowly, as if to a very small child>
Once again, O Best Beloved, ap-point-ment... is-n't... the... saaame... as... e-lec-tion... m'kay?
 
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