Why do muslims hate democracy

[Sleeppy]

Response: And billions of Non-Musims, including you, have not been able to control your own economic well-being, thus exposing your self with your own hypocrisy. So the difference is that you still cannot quote anything from the Qur'an or Sunnah that shows itself to be unjust or false. Not one. So your own rebuttals continue to support the fact that Islam is the solution, while your democratic systems continue to be problematic in finding solutions for oppression, poverty, crime, etcc. Thus the laugh is on you.

We're doing a lot better than Allah's chosen, even without the Quran. So here's my challenge: conquer and rule over Islam's economic well-being, and surpass the non-Islamic nations in this regard (you can use the Quran, and double your daily prayers for help). If you cannot, the Quran is not divine, and Allah is not helping you. If you do, I'll convert. I'll give you as much time as you need.

And by the way.. The Quran states that there is a barrier set between two waters, which cannot be transgressed.. Which two waters is it referring to?

 

[Al-Fatihah]

votes?:sarcastic
what are you taking about?

and no Muslim woman is forced to take off their veil.

Response: I am talking about democracy and in democracy, a Muslim woman can be forced to take off her veil if it is voted to do so.

 

[Harikrish]

Response: Yet in a democratic country, a person can be forced to take off their veil and be forced to put one and make women choose what clothes to wear, as long as the votes are there....so?

The purpose of the Burka was to cover the Muslim's female body from lusty onlookers. But when they are raped nevertheless by the Muslim men. This silly garment is hardly a deterrent. It is really a trap set for Muslim women so they cannot see or get away fast enough. Besides it is quite easy to rape someone wearing one of those sack bags.

 

[Estro Felino]

Response: I am talking about democracy and in democracy, a Muslim woman can be forced to take off her veil if it is voted to do so.

only the burqa is forbidden. Veil is allowed and nobody has the right to prevent a woman from wearing it.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

We're doing a lot better than Allah's chosen, even without the Quran. So here's my challenge: conquer and rule over Islam's economic well-being, and surpass the non-Islamic nations in this regard (you can use the Quran, and double your daily prayers for help). If you cannot, the Quran is not divine, and Allah is not helping you. If you do, I'll convert. I'll give you as much time as you need.

And by the way.. The Quran states that there is a barrier set between two waters, which cannot be transgressed.. Which two waters is it referring to?

Response: The definition of divinity is not "surpass a non-Islamic economic system" so your challenge is faulty to begin with.

As for the two seas, your question has no relevance.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

only the burqa is forbidden. Veil is allowed and nobody has the right to prevent a woman from wearing it.

Response: Yet in a democratic country, one does have a right to prevent a woman from wearing it, as long as votes are passed to do so.

 

[Sleeppy]

Response: The definition of divinity is not "surpass a non-Islamic economic system" so your challenge is faulty to begin with.

As for the two seas, your question has no relevance.

Ok. The definition of Islamic divinity is "conquer the street you live on, or your own nation, without the consent of the people." That makes much more sense.

You asked me to point out a falsehood in the Quran-- what it says about the two seas is relevant in this regard. It's false.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

The purpose of the Burka was to cover the Muslim's female body from lusty onlookers. But when they are raped nevertheless by the Muslim men. This silly garment is hardly a deterrent. It is really a trap set for Muslim women so they cannot see or get away fast enough. Besides it is quite easy to rape someone wearing one of those sack bags.

Response: None of which changes the fact that being covered is a better deterrent from promiscuity than being naked. So your point is pointless.

 

[Estro Felino]

Response: Yet in a democratic country, one does have a right to prevent a woman from wearing it, as long as votes are passed to do so.

That's impossible and would never happen. In a democracy, by definition, you cannot prevent someone from doing something which is not against the penal law.

so you cannot prevent someone from wearing the veil
you cannot prevent someone from wearing sexy clothes
you cannot prevent someone from being gay
you cannot prevent a woman from being a pornstar or a prostitute

 

[Al-Fatihah]

Ok. The definition of Islamic divinity is "conquer the street you live on, or your own nation, without the consent of the people." That makes much more sense.

You asked me to point out a falsehood in the Quran-- what it says about the two seas is relevant in this regard. It's false.

Response: The proof of divinity is performing a miraculous act. Thus your failure to produce a chapter like the Qur'an or show that it is humanly possible supports the fact that it is humanly impossible to do so, thus the Qur'an is of divine origin. Thanks.

And if there was something false in the Qur'an, then you should be able to state clearly what it is. The fact that you cannot but have to ask me what the verse says shows that you clearly have no proof since you don't know what it says. So you just refuted yourself.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

That's impossible and would never happen. In a democracy, by definition, you cannot prevent someone from doing something which is not against the penal law.

so you cannot prevent someone from wearing the veil
you cannot prevent someone from wearing sexy clothes
you cannot prevent someone from being gay
you cannot prevent a woman from being a pornstar or a prostitute

Response: And what is penal law is based on votes. So if it is voted that it is not against penal law, then it is not impossible. Thus your logic fails. So in democracy:

you can prevent someone from wearing the veil
you can prevent someone from wearing sexy clothes
you can prevent someone from being gay
you can prevent a woman from being a porn star or a prostitute.

 

[Sleeppy]

Response: The proof of divinity is performing a miraculous act. Thus your failure to produce a chapter like the Qur'an supports the fact that it is humanly impossible to do so, thus the Qur'an is of divine origin. Thanks.

And if there was something false in the Qur'an, then you should be able to state clearly what it is. The fact that you cannot but have to ask me what the verse says shows that you clearly have no proof since you don't know what it says. So you just refuted yourself.

Perform the miraculous act of reversing Islam's overall economic condition, so that they are first in Allah's earth. That's the challenge. If you succeed, I'll convert, and go around attempting to convert everyone I meet. That'd truly be a miracle, I'm sure Allah would love.

I know what the verse says. It says there is a barrier between two waters which is not able to be transgressed. False.

 

[sojourner]

Response: You made a bunch of claims that that are also displayed and acted out in Non-Muslim societies as well, thus showing the hypocrisy in your own argument and refuting yourself as usual.

Furthermore, Islam is based on the Qur'an and Sunnah, yet when asked to provide a quote from either source to support your claim, you again fail to present one. So you have demonstrated that not only is your ideology is unproductive with no solution, but your failure to quote anything unjust from the Qur'an or Sunnah supports the fact that Islam is the solution. Thanks for the assistance.

But it is WRIT. LARGE. in Muslim countries, and Islam appears to not only be ineffective against it -- it appears to actually foster it.
One doesn't need to quote from the Koran to see what's going on in plain sight. However, you've not put forth any Koranic or Sunnah evidence to the contrary, either.

I guess the translation of your post is simply this: "I'm not going to address your argument, because I don't have a viable defense."

Fine. Islam is what it is, as evidenced by your lack of reason and lack of engagement with the arguments of others. No wonder y'all don't like democracy, because, in a democratic gov't, you can't control people and you aren't necessarily open to criticism from people who think differently. Hence, your economies are going to tank due to your own internal problems.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

Perform the miraculous act of reversing Islam's overall economic condition, so that they are first in Allah's earth. That's the challenge. If you succeed, I'll convert, and go around attempting to convert everyone I meet. That'd truly be a miracle, I'm sure Allah would love.

I know what the verse says. It says there is a barrier between two waters which is not able to be transgressed. False.

Response: You have no proof that performing such an act is a miracle, so your logic fails. Nor does it change the fact that you failed the Qur'an challenge, thus supporting the fact that the Qur'an is the true word from Allah. So no other evidence is required.

And you failed to prove that the verse is false. Debunked.

 

[sojourner]

Response: Nor does anything in Islam teach terrorism or beheading. So you continue to make my point and demonstrate that Islam is just. Thanks.

Whereas the rise to power by the West is based on slavery and imperialism. Hence the slaughter of Native Americans, the slave trade of Africans to America and Western countries, and the fact that poverty is still an epidemic problem in the West. Another example of how your philosophy fails. Not Islam.

Yet, Muslims routinely exhibit this behavior, citing the Koran and Muslim law as the impetus. Heck, I heard on NPR this afternoon that ISIL cites Muslim law as condoning the taking of young girls as slave-concubines.

Islam, as evidenced by your posts and by world events, is just alright -- just unreasonable.

 

[Harikrish]

Response: None of which changes the fact that being covered is a better deterrent from promiscuity than being naked. So your point is pointless.

But going naked is not permitted in western cultures or acceptable to Christians. And Promiscuity is certainly more acceptable than Muslims raping indiscriminately. There is a big divide and with so many Muslims uneducated, We can only hope their numbers are reduced to a manageable level.

 

[sojourner]

For starters, there is no Islamic country in the world.

I guess that's why the capital of Pakistan is "Islamabad." No Western capital is known as "Christian City." Just sayin'...

So democracy can never over rule or be better that Allah's law.

And yet... it has proven to be. Over and over again.

 

[Al-Fatihah]

But it is WRIT. LARGE. in Muslim countries, and Islam appears to not only be ineffective against it -- it appears to actually foster it.
One doesn't need to quote from the Koran to see what's going on in plain sight. However, you've not put forth any Koranic or Sunnah evidence to the contrary, either.

I guess the translation of your post is simply this: "I'm not going to address your argument, because I don't have a viable defense."

Fine. Islam is what it is, as evidenced by your lack of reason and lack of engagement with the arguments of others. No wonder y'all don't like democracy, because, in a democratic gov't, you can't control people and you aren't necessarily open to criticism from people who think differently. Hence, your economies are going to tank due to your own internal problems.

Response: In other words, you still cannot quote anything from the Qur'an or Sunnah that shows that Islam is unjust. Debunking yourself as usual. Thus we can take from your redundancy that Islam is the best of ethics and morality, supported by the fact that you continue to fail to quote anything to back your claim, while the poverty stricken, crime driven, rape and molestation conditions employed by the West and democracy with no solution shows that Islam is the only solution.

 

[Sleeppy]

Response: You have no proof that performing such an act is a miracle, so your logic fails. Nor does it change the fact that you failed the Qur'an challenge, thus supporting the fact that the Qur'an is the true word from Allah. So no other evidence is required.

And you failed to prove that the verse is false. Debunked.

If you performed that act, it would be a miracle for billions of Muslims. Go ask your mother. Allah would be very pleased if you could contribute to the well-being of your Muslim brothers and sisters, would he not?-- Your Quran challenge is passed in every gang territory in America. For this reason, it is not miraculous, but common.

It was never true in the first place. There is no two waters that you can ever point to, where there is boundary never being transgressed. Help Allah out.. Help Allah figure out which two waters he was referring to when he lied.

 

[sojourner]

Whereas Islam disagrees, and promotes what is best for society, whether you like it or not. And those who want what is best for society will favor Islam.

Correction: Islam promotes what powerful, Islamic men determine is best, whether anyone else likes it or not. Dehumanization of half the population cannot, by definition, be "good for society."