Why do people deny or have various doubts about God?

[Shad]

Oh the surface evidence. What is that exactly?

IE Surface as in on the surface of the planet not hundreds of miles below. The lack of a complete break down in the ecology and civilizations, sediment, etc.

 

[Sonofason]

Then why are you?

I'm not. You are the one putting forth this claim about me. Now prove it.

Good for you.
now why do you seem to have to constantly remind yourself?

I don't. It is you who are making this claim. So prove it.

Bold empty claim that serves no purpose but to make yourself feel better.

You are now claiming that I state my faith in God in order to make myself feel better. Now prove it.

Fair enough

Indeed.

Yet here you are, doing exactly that...

That may be what you believe, but it appears to me to be yet one more unsubstantiated claim made by you about me. If you think you know my motives, then prove it.

 

[Sonofason]

Nope.
I am no longer interested in play Pigeon Chess with you.

Of course you are.

 

[Sonofason]

IE Surface as in on the surface of the planet not hundreds of miles below. The lack of a complete break down in the ecology and civilizations, sediment, etc.

Are you going to substantiate this claim? Do you have evidence? Let's see it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Oh, I understand very well what evidence is. Evidence is anything that you see, hear, or read that causes you to believe that something is true or has really happened. So please, if there is something you want me to believe, by all means present that which is capable of causing me to believe it. And if it causes me to believe it, I will certainly consider it evidence.

How on earth is anybody supposed to know what exact piece of evidence you are willing to accept unless you clearly specify what that would be? Especially when you don't seem to accept any kind of empirical evidence for what it is. We're not mind readers.

 

[SkepticThinker]

That is the point -your position is immune to evidence. No evidence will change your mind.

This ^^^^^^^^

 

[Sonofason]

How on earth is anybody supposed to know what exact piece of evidence you are willing to accept unless you clearly specify what that would be? Especially when you don't seem to accept any kind of empirical evidence for what it is. We're not mind readers.

How could I possibly know what is capable of convincing me until I am convinced?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Are you going to substantiate this claim? Do you have evidence? Let's see it.

Why would anyone try to present any evidence whatsoever to you at this point? I'm starting to think this is just some bizarre game you are playing.

 

[SkepticThinker]

How could I possibly know what is capable of convincing me until I am convinced?

How about testable, repeatable and verifiable observations of nature?

 

[Sonofason]

This ^^^^^^^^

No evidence will change my mind about what exactly?

I have seen so many claims of evidence tossed around that I no longer know what it is that everyone desires to convince me of.

 

[Sonofason]

How about testable, repeatable and verifiable observations of nature?

To prove what exactly? Do you even know what it is that you are hoping to convince me of?

 

[SkepticThinker]

 

[Sonofason]

Okay then, if you have evidence that there was no great flood covering the entire earth, now is the time to present it.

 

[McBell]

I'm not. You are the one putting forth this claim about me. Now prove it.
I don't. It is you who are making this claim. So prove it.
You are now claiming that I state my faith in God in order to make myself feel better. Now prove it.
Indeed.
That may be what you believe, but it appears to me to be yet one more unsubstantiated claim made by you about me. If you think you know my motives, then prove it.

I have no need to prove it.
You have done already proven it with your very own posts.

now all you have left is denial and flying home to claim victory.

 

[McBell]

Of course you are.

Nope.
I know that you are not about to accept anything that goes against your beliefs, thus your asking for evidence is nothing more than a round of pigeon chess.

 

[McBell]

Okay then, if you have evidence that there was no great flood covering the entire earth, now is the time to present it.

Blatant diversion tactic.

 

[Sonofason]

Why would anyone try to present any evidence whatsoever to you at this point? I'm starting to think this is just some bizarre game you are playing.

Do you mean to say this is not a game?

game - a physical or mental activity or contest that has rules and that people do for pleasure.
game - activity engaged in for diversion or amusement.
game - often derisive or mocking jesting.
game - a procedure or strategy for gaining an end.
game - a physical or mental competition conducted according to rules with the participants in direct opposition to each other.
Game - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

game - A competitive activity or sport in which players contend with each other according to a set of rules.
game - a contest with rules, the result being determined by skill, strength, or chance.
game - definition of game by The Free Dictionary

Is not a debate a contest?
Do not people engage in debate for pleasure?
Is not debate derisive?
Surely I have seen much mocking and jesting in many debates.
Is not there an end game to debate?
Like most games, do not most debaters hope to win?
Is not a debate a mental competition?

Yes, I believe this is a game of sorts. Don't you agree?

 

[Sonofason]

Blatant diversion tactic.

Was not Noah's flood the topic of our most recent discussion?

 

[Shad]

Are you going to substantiate this claim? Do you have evidence? Let's see it.

It is up to those put forward the claim to present evidence of the flood not speculate based on an articles. There is a lack of an mass extinction level event which a global flood would technical fall under. No break down in ecological systems. Mass destruction of settlementS across the global.

There is art worK in cave paints such as the Cave of El Castillo and Lascaux. Neolithic civilizations in Egypt and China, Merimde pottery for example. At best any biblical flood would be local not global. However this has been the theory in archaeology for decades. Only literalists seem even entertain the idea of a global flood

 

[Sonofason]

It is up to those put forward the claim to present evidence of the flood not speculate based on an articles. There is a lack of an mass extinction level event which a global flood would technical fall under. No break down in ecological systems. Mass destruction of settlementS across the global.

There is art worK in cave paints such as the Cave of El Castillo and Lascaux. Neolithic civilizations in Egypt and China, Merimde pottery for example. At best any biblical flood would be local not global. However this has been the theory in archaeology for decades. Only literalists seem even entertain the idea of a global flood

Perhaps you can provide evidence to support your idea that cave paint is evidence that there was no global flood. Perhaps you can show why Neolithic civilizations and pottery prove that there was no global flood.