Why do some Atheists say Christianity is harmful?

[Melchizedek99]

I think God knows humans are profoundly stupid and don't usually think straight. I really don't think God considers making an intellectual mistake a sin.

Only if its true ignorance

 

[Melchizedek99]

You can't argue that something is true or false simply based on you desire for it to be true or false.

My point is, atheism gives people no hope.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But lets assume for one second atheism is true. Life has no meaning.

No, life has the meaning that one gives it.

But let's assume for one second that Christianity is true. Life has no meaning.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

OK then.
So nothing to worry about.

I don't believe there is anything to worry about either. I consider my extensive study of the Bible and Christian theology to be an advantage that attributed to my deconversion. I essentially studied my way out of believing in the Bible and God. I explained my experience in my previous post, which is post #126.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My point is, atheism gives people no hope.

What do you mean by that? What "hope" do you need?

 

[Melchizedek99]

What do you mean by that? What "hope" do you need?

Hope for a better future, hope for something greater than just chasing hedonistic desires. Hope, hope of eternal life in eternal bliss, forever, and ever and ever!!!!

What is this life without faith? its all meaningless suffering. But faith gives temporary suffering meaning.

 

[Orbit]

SO WHY Would you deconvert, just why? How can you just say i dont believe anymore? You dont even fear hell or what?

I deconverted. It started out by wanting to know the truth of Christianity. I re-read Genesis, read secular and religious scholarship on the origins of the Bible and the stories in it, and researched the civilizations of the ancient Near East. I looked at history, mythology, and church history. In the end, I concluded that the Bible was not meant to be taken as literal truth, and claims withtin it were more didactic than factual. Hell isn't actually even Biblical. It's based on Dante's "Inferno" from the 1300s, but that's another topic.

 

[danieldemol]

What are you talking about? Priests are not wealthy.

How many have showed you their personal bank accounts? Aside from televangelists, priests at least in the catholic Church tend to get housing at the lower levels as far as I'm aware. Not to mention some of the prestigious places for the higher ups such as Vatican city.

 

[The Hammer]

I was, and I'm sure I still am, but it would be dishonest of me to do that now since I no longer believe and am not a Christian anymore. I worked hard at it and crafted my style of preaching and evangelism into an art form. It also helped that I had spent several years studying the Bible and Christian theology.

Become a Wicca Evangelist

 

[Melchizedek99]

I deconverted. It started out by wanting to know the truth of Christianity. I re-read Genesis, read secular and religious scholarship on the origins of the Bible and the stories in it, and researched the civilizations of the ancient Near East. I looked at history, mythology, and church history. In the end, I concluded that the Bible was not meant to be taken as literal truth, and claims withtin it were more didactic than factual. Hell isn't actually even Biblical. It's based on Dante's "Inferno" from the 1300s, but that's another topic.

Honestly if i would ever fully deconvert, which wont happen but lets assume i ever would lose faith. I would die, yes, at my own hands. Because the last suicide attempt was exactly at such a moment, i had huge doubts, and no hope anymore, no faith.

Only pain. Pain with no reason.

 

[paarsurrey]

Some of us have been harmed by Christianity.

You really-truly know of no aspect of
Christianity ever harming anyone?

I've been an atheist before my conversion, i was way more miserable, i would not be alive today without faith. Being an atheist is miserable because you have no meaning in life.

Isn't Atheism the flip side of Pauline-Christianity, as most Western Atheism people were ex-Christians, please, right??

Regards
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"How the Apostle Paul broke my faith"
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/aswf01

 

[The Hammer]

SO WHY Would you deconvert, just why? How can you just say i dont believe anymore? You dont even fear hell or what?

I deconverted from Christianity as well (I feel so much healthier and happier now).

 

[Melchizedek99]

I deconverted from Christianity as well (I feel so much healthier and happier now).

But how can one be happier without meaning in life?

 

[Orbit]

Honestly if i would ever fully deconvert, which wont happen but lets assume i ever would lose faith. I would die, yes, at my own hands. Because the last suicide attempt was exactly at such a moment, i had huge doubts, and no hope anymore, no faith.

Only pain. Pain with no reason.

If Christianity works for you, that's great. I would just remind you to remember that other experiences have value also.

 

[Melchizedek99]

If Christianity works for you, that's great. I would just remind you to remember that other experiences have value also.

There are no atheists in foxholes. Atheism only works if youre privileged, honestly. And then its only temporarily distractions too. As soon as youre aware of your mortality, pain and suffering, atheism seems depressing, meaningless.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Become a Wicca Evangelist

Nah. My evangelistic preaching days are over. Now I believe it's wrong for me to try and convert people to my preferred religion. Live and let live. I'm not bothered by what other people believe spiritually unless they attempt to impose their beliefs on me or on others or if they use their beliefs to be abusive.

I deconverted from Christianity as well (I feel so much healthier and happier now).

Me too.

 

[danieldemol]

What is this life without faith? its all meaningless suffering. But faith gives temporary suffering meaning.

I'd just like to point out you dont need faith in the Catholic Church to have faith.

In my view universalism gives an even better hope, because in universalism you dont have to think of your non-Catholic friends in the eternal deep frier.

 

[Melchizedek99]

I'd just like to point out you dont need faith in the Catholic Church to have faith.

In my view universalism gives an even better hope, because in universalism you dont have to think of your non-Catholic friends in the eternal deep frier.

i dont have non-christian friends, nor was i ever in doubt of Gods just and merciful judgement. SO i do not worry.

 

[danieldemol]

Isn't Atheism the flip side of Pauline-Christianity, as most Western Atheism people were ex-Christians, please, right??

Regards
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"How the Apostle Paul broke my faith"
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/aswf01

There's plenty of atheist ex Ahmadi Muslims, I can link you to one of their sites if you wish.

 

[Melchizedek99]

Whoever ends up in hell is there out of his own fault, and his own fault only, God is simply blameless.