Why does God communicate ambiguously?

[McBell]

I do not believe you.

I do not give two cricket farts what you believe.

Especially if you can logically and with reason accept that life could have evolved by chance from some microbes to highly advanced biological systems. All because some molecules got excited and started crashing against each other. That is one definition of either insanity or obstinacy or someone who wants to live their life unshackled by the the voice of their Creator.

Well, since I do not believe in that nonsense you describe in your above quoted little rant...

I prefer evolution.
And if you think that that nonsense in your above quoted little rant was a description of evolution, then you do not know enough about evolution to have an honest discussion about the topic.

But please feel free to continue revealing your ignorance in such a most entertaining fashion.

 

[thau]

It'd be amazing if it was. Mostly because it wouldn't be the God you're looking for.

Sorry... I cannot spend my precious time on earth (like apparently you are willing to) just playing the "what if game" or giving the appearance of being some deep thinker by proposing all these crazy theories.

God is evident, as is which God we are talking about. Irrefutable.

What is not evident is why so many people with even half a brain are blind to the truth.

 

[McBell]

BTW, I know you are in love with evolution, but some of us "free thinkers" just cannot swallow the poison.

Bold faced lie.
Or a statement that reveals your are far to ignorant of the topic of evolution to have a meaningful discussion with.

Which is it?

 

[waitasec]

I will give you some credit for using an economy of words in many of your replies. However, when it is so limited it makes no sense, then it becomes counter-productive.

BTW, I know you are in love with evolution, but some of us "free thinkers" just cannot swallow the poison.

so you can't tell me why you bash science and then use it for your benefit?

how do you know god wants this or that?

unfounded confidence brings out the worst in people...makes them rely on
ad hominems

 

[nrg]

Are you telling me that you are not even sure God exists?

Yes, but even if I was:

If you believe in God, are you telling me you are not convinced that God is the God of the Bible?

I'm not sure God is the God of the Bible. He could be one of the gods of the Veda scriptures for all I know.

 

[9Westy9]

Sorry... I cannot spend my precious time on earth (like apparently you are willing to) just playing the "what if game" or giving the appearance of being some deep thinker by proposing all these crazy theories.

God is evident, as is which God we are talking about. Irrefutable.

Being a pyrrhonist (someone who only accepts evident claims) I disagree.

What is not evident is why so many people with even half a brain are blind to the truth.

Please educate us all

 

[thau]

so you can't tell me why you bash science and then use it for your benefit?

how do you know god wants this or that?

unfounded confidence brings out the worst in people...makes them rely on
ad hominems

I do not bash science at all. I bash evolution science and those who demand it be taught as fact. I bash those educators who teach their students that evolution could have occurred without an intelligent designer. These "teachers" and "scientists" are blindly complying with the "company mission" or they are going along just to preserve their careers (an ulterior motive). Meanwhile, the naive students and public accept it without really questioning it, and it alters their views on God and ethics. It is the tool of the devil.

I know what God wants because the evidence for the Judeo-Christian God is everywhere and repeated througout history. Once you come to understand that, then you might also understand that he (Jesus) left His Church (the Catholic Church) as the sole authority on Scripture and God's teachings to follow. It's not rocket science... and it surely is not "evolution science."

 

[thau]

Bold faced lie.
Or a statement that reveals your are far to ignorant of the topic of evolution to have a meaningful discussion with.

Which is it?

I am sick of having a meaningful discussion on evolution. That is it.

But every once in awhile, I like to take a jab at the proud and the assured. Because it irritates me how they can influence the gullible out there.

Evolution is a very dangerous JOKE.

 

[thau]

Being a pyrrhonist (someone who only accepts evident claims) I disagree.



Please educate us all

You are not interested, if you are still asking for the truth.

There are thousands of events that point to God. There are thousands of books that explain it well. But you think if I cannot provide the "smoking gun" in two or three paragraphs or less, that we are just living on blind faith. Sad.

 

[waitasec]

I do not bash science at all. I bash evolution science and those who demand it be taught as fact. I bash those educators who teach their students that evolution could have occurred without an intelligent designer. These "teachers" and "scientists" are blindly complying with the "company mission" or they are going along just to preserve their careers (an ulterior motive). Meanwhile, the naive students and public accept it without really questioning it, and it alters their views on God and ethics. It is the tool of the devil.

I know what God wants because the evidence for the Judeo-Christian God is everywhere and repeated througout history. Once you come to understand that, then you might also understand that he (Jesus) left His Church (the Catholic Church) as the sole authority on Scripture and God's teachings to follow. It's not rocket science... and it surely is not "evolution science."

do you take medicine...
do you go to the doctor, ever go under the knife?

there is no evidence for a god who prefers faith
if you believe that then you are not in a position to criticize 9/11
as you give license to such thinking...

for shame.

 

[McBell]

I am sick of having a meaningful discussion on evolution. That is it.

Really?
Cause I have yet to see any indication from you that you have even a basic understanding of evolution...

But every once in awhile, I like to take a jab at the proud and the assured. Because it irritates me how they can influence the gullible out there.

So you like jabbing yourself?

Evolution is a very dangerous JOKE.

Since you have not been able to demonstrate that you know anything about evolution, I think it safe to assume that you are not talking about evolution but instead are attacking your strawman.


BRAVO!
Woo Hoo!
You straight whooped that strawmans arse!!

 

[waitasec]

I am sick of having a meaningful discussion on evolution. That is it.

so why bring it up?

 

[thau]

I do not give two cricket farts what you believe.


Well, since I do not believe in that nonsense you describe in your above quoted little rant...

I prefer evolution.
And if you think that that nonsense in your above quoted little rant was a description of evolution, then you do not know enough about evolution to have an honest discussion about the topic.

But please feel free to continue revealing your ignorance in such a most entertaining fashion.

Yes, I know, I live with your kind all my life. You know, those cocksure adherents of junk science --- who CONSTANTLY tell doubters what evolution IS NOT, but are much less willing to tell us what evolution IS.

When I tell them evolution is nothing more than "If you stare at a canary long enough it will eventually turn into a wolverine" --- they laugh and say "that is not what evolution is." And I laugh and say "no, but what you claim is far, far more preposterous." And that is how it ends.

 

[waitasec]

Yes, I know, I live with your kind all my life. You know, those cocksure adherents of junk science --- who CONSTANTLY tell doubters what evolution IS NOT, but are much less willing to tell us what evolution IS.

When I tell them evolution is nothing more than "If you state at a canary long enough it will eventually turn into a wolverine" --- they laugh and say "that is not what evolution is." And I laugh and say "no, but what you claim is far, far more preposterous." And that is how it ends.

gee i wonder how many "evolutionist" out there are telling people evolution wants this or that in the name of evolution

 

[McBell]

Yes, I know, I live with your kind all my life. You know, those cocksure adherents of junk science --- who CONSTANTLY tell doubters what evolution IS NOT, but are much less willing to tell us what evolution IS.

Then stop presenting strawmen.
I understand that you have absolutely nothing to say against evolution, thus the reason you have to continually make up strawman.

If you stop presenting your strawmen perhaps you could actually talk about what evolution is.

Though I strongly suspect that you are scared of evolution and use the strawmen to hide behind.

When I tell them evolution is nothing more than "If you state at a canary long enough it will eventually turn into a wolverine" --- they laugh and say "that is not what evolution is." And I laugh and say "no, but what you claim is far, far more preposterous." And that is how it ends.

Yes, because they realize that you are not the least bit interested in truth or facts.
You prefer to preach your strawmen then attack them.

Thank you for confirming that you are not only to ignorant of evolution to have a meaningful discussion of the topic, but that you choose to remian ignorant in favour of your self righteous strawmen.

Your god must be so proud.

 

[9Westy9]

You are not interested, if you are still asking for the truth.

Wrong way around. People who believe they have found truth lose interest in opinions other to their own. People who are still searching are the most open

There are thousands of events that point to God. There are thousands of books that explain it well. But you think if I cannot provide the "smoking gun" in two or three paragraphs or less, that we are just living on blind faith. Sad.

name a handful of these events? (as for the other points, I don't know what you're trying to get at )

 

[waitasec]

and your god prefers a circumcised penis

 

[McBell]

I dare say I have read more 250 articles on evolution over the past 15 years. Those difficult questions for evolutionists either go unaddressed or they speak in these big words, esoteric ambiguous suppositions, because the concrete connections, including the fossil evidence between species, do not exist.

[sarcasm]
A whole 250 articles in 15 years?
really?

Le gasp

you must be an expert by now!
[/sarcasm]

 

[nrg]

Especially if you can logically and with reason accept that life could have evolved by chance from some microbes to highly advanced biological systems. All because some molecules got excited and started crashing against each other. That is one definition of either insanity or obstinacy or someone who wants to live their life unshackled by the the voice of their Creator.

Could we keep this discussion away from evolution? This is about God's way of communicating. Not about what scientific theories you support.

 

[waitasec]

15.Why is a fundamentally religious idea, a dogmatic belief system that fails to explain the evidence, taught in science classes? Karl Popper, famous philosopher of science, said “Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical [religious] research programme ….”13 Michael Ruse, evolutionist science philosopher admitted, “Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.”14 If “you can’t teach religion in science classes”, why is evolution taught? See: creation.com/evo-religious, creation.com/notscience.

hmmm i wonder how this can be used to justify any religion?
talk about self defeating tactics
:biglaugh: