Why I believe God Created Life.

[Apostlelypse]

Ignorant: lacking in knowledge or training;(you came in here looking for information)
Intelligence: capacity for learning (ability to learn)

You also seem to get the numbers 1 and 8 mixed up. Could just be dyslexia or something.

Trust me I'm a good guy, I can answer questions the best I can, but if you rebuttal every answer that I give then I start acting like my old principal Mr Skinner. Anyway.. you really truly need Gods help. Trust in him, he can give you the enlightenment of 1000 cheddar bay biscuits.

 

[Apostlelypse]

I don't need to insult or belittle you. God will judge you himself. If you want information you might have to go through the stress of clicking a link, it takes some effort. Remember "He who is slack in their works is brother to him who destroys" Proverb 18:9

 

[Simurgh]

Well I just figured you'd post something that is helpful not 8 pages of junk but if you want to hear a story about Red Lobster I'll tell you about every time I go to Red Lobster:

Everyone knows that an evening at Red Lobster is no small affair. I press my jeans, put on my finest hair product, and drench myself in a musky cologne. Hell, I may even shine up my wing tipped shoes, for I am going to Red Lobster. I strut through the door with my finest lady on my arm and throw up two fingers to the Hostess. I glide past the lobster tank with ease knowing that yet again I will not be eating a red lobster at Red Lobster (who would). I take a seat and before the waiter asks us for our drinks I request 20 cheddar bay biscuits. It's such a bold move that music stops, glasses clink, and everyone in a 5 yard radius gasps in disbelief/shock. Even my company gives me a look of concern. The waiter says " s..sir are you sure?". I don't sweat one bit and I tell that waiter to step and make with the cbb's. he comes back with three baskets filled with biscuits (7 in 2 and 6 in another). I thank the waiter. Then I go straight baller!!!! I'm pounding biszcuits left and right. Smashing them in old dudes faces, rubbing them between my ladies titties, telling the waiter to **** off. I cause a ruckus, only get cbb's, don't pay a dime, and leave with my girl plus three more.That's generally what happens every time I go to Red Lobster, I've gotten banned from 33 locations.

Don't insult my intelligence again because I don't like being that guy and this is a civil forum. You sir, are not civil.

I must say, the information you were willing to share about Red Lobster/biscuits and all that was just inspiring. Brought my understanding of the sacred role of cheddar biscuits to a whole new metaphysical level. I am awed by your eloquence. It certainly is more entertaining than that apostleyptic drivel. Of course, I will abstain from emulating you since I would have to apply the biscuits much further south on my male companion to get the same effect and that might not end well….

Now the apoplectic apostleizer issue is another one of those things that should not be accorded more importance than it is due. You are dealing with someone who is mistakenly assuming that it is up to us to point out the many error of his way.

Why bother, we know he is wrong and cannot actually provide a valid response to anything he rants about as there are no credible sources to quote, nothing worthwhile to say. He merely assumes that some ridiculous bible verse quote solves all the problems he has. And so he is one of a large number of patronizing bible bullies who cannot understand the simplest scientific theories. The links he provides are useless because nothing he says has any value outside his ever so narrowly constructed universe.

I suggest we let him bang his bible on the table and we go and meet for biscuits at Red Lobster 34.

 

[Bunyip]

Problems with dating using these methods, such as carbon-14, remain. Interested persons can use Internet search to verify this. Since this thread is entitled "Why I believe God Created Life", I think it appropriate to reiterate:

* "In his book Evolution: A Theory in Crisis, molecular biologist Michael Denton states: “Even the simplest of all living systems on earth today, bacterial cells, are exceedingly complex objects. Although the tiniest bacterial cells are incredibly small, . . . each is in effect a veritable microminiaturized factory containing thousands of exquisitely designed pieces of intricate molecular machinery . . . far more complicated than any machine built by man and absolutely without parallel in the non-living world.”
(The Bible reasons that houses have builders and so does the universe. (Hebrews 3:4))
Regarding the genetic code in each cell, Denton states: “The capacity of DNA to store information vastly exceeds that of any other known system; it is so efficient that all the information needed to specify an organism as complex as man weighs less than a few thousand millionths of a gram. . . . Alongside the level of ingenuity and complexity exhibited by the molecular machinery of life, even our most advanced [products] appear clumsy. We feel humbled.”
(It was study of DNA that led former atheist Antony Flew to change his mind and believe in God. Not just the storage capacity of DNA, unequaled by anything produced by intelligent scientists, but the information encoded in DNA, a recipe or program to create a living creature, convinces me this could never have happened by chance, happenstance, the environment, or in any other way than an infinitely intelligent Creator.
I believe the words recorded at Psalm 139:16 are literally true:"Your eyes even saw me as an embryo; All its parts were written in your book Regarding the days when they were formed, Before any of them existed." The DNA book has all our parts written in the genome. The human genome is made up of about three billion base pairs. )

They don't use carbon dating for fossils mate.

 

[McBell]

I am not ignorant of Evolution. You However may be ignorant to the scientific method. It's still called the "Theory of evolution" Like I said, The evidence strongly supports it, but is it really life altering true or not? Evolution does not prove or disprove God, it only tells us how we ended up here. At the end of the day I have faith that gives me strength.

Ouch.
Pretty sad that you reveal your own ignorance of the scientific method whilst attempting to school another on it...

I agree evolution has absolutely nothing to say about god.
To bad there are so many theists who do not understand that fact.

 

[McBell]

Taking the Morals from the bible doesn't mean go out and kill people. The stories of The Bible were written in a different time when life was very extreme, so it's easy to point those out and act like religions find these things morally acceptable. That's just an athiest cop-out rebuttal. Try just reading the 10 commandments, or maybe read about the time Jesus walked out in the middle mass, against the approval of his peers,to save a dying child. You know..the stories where people went against authority to do the right thing.

My goodness.
You even pick and choose which Biblical Morals to accept and toss out...

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Plenty of information about ID here.

intelligentdesign ,org/science.php

So you can read some articles, get some information, make an informed decision on what your beliefs are, or you can read into every words I write until you find a fallacy and call me out on it while you eat cheddar cheese biscuits!





Taking the Morals from the bible doesn't mean go out and kill people. The stories of The Bible were written in a different time when life was very extreme, so it's easy to point those out and act like religions find these things morally acceptable. That's just an athiest cop-out rebuttal. Try just reading the 10 commandments, or maybe read about the time Jesus walked out in the middle mass, against the approval of his peers,to save a dying child. You know..the stories where people went against authority to do the right thing.

Reading the nice, fluffy, happy-go-lucky parts of the Bible do not make the verses full of cruelty and violence just magically disappear... They're still there. You're just choosing to ignore them.

 

[starless]

Don't worry Jesus is a good guy

The same Jesus who says most of humankind will burn in Hell forever; or that one should cut off their hands or take out their eyes in order to avoid sin; or that one should love him more than his family; or that he hasn't come to Earth to bring peace but a sword; or that one should kill children who curse their parents; or that slaves should obey and serve their masters sincerely; that good guy Jesus?

What's wrong with you? Have you actually read the Bible?

 

[rusra02]

Actually not. When used properly, which is now standard procedure, C-14 is mostly accurate because it has been adjusted because of environmental variables.

Again, I refer interested persons to check for themselves. There is no way to know for certain environmental conditions thousands of Years in the past.

 

[rusra02]

Besides using the bible for a science text, you also quote Michael Denton, a Senior Fellow at Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture. yeah, using an ID dude as a credible source for scientific discourse is really fascinating. Another one of those intellectual giants who gave up on scientific inquiry in favor of the easy answers that bind faith provides.
Drawing religious conclusions when science becomes to complex to understand is just a sad comment on the individual who gives up and starts hiding behind the chimerical solutions a given religion provides. And really, quoting a book of myth and selective historical accounts that are edited for political purposes and a pseudo-scientific one from 1985 is not exactly meant to inspire confidence. Or are you running out of actual arguments that are meant to show that your ideology is on the right track, and that is why you throw numbers around as if they meant something with actual scientific value?

Religion is not to be confused with science. They are not the same, even if proponents of id and creationism pretend that they are.

I understand that many Evolutionists feel obliged to attack the intellect and credentials of anyone who dares question the ToE. To me, such tactics expose a certain desperation; the same for dismissing the Bible as "myth". Time and time again, such claims that the Bible is not true history or scientifically correct have been turned back, and the Bible vindicated as true. I think each person should examine the facts for themselves rather than let others decide what they should think or believe. After all, the Bible itself says to "Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine." (1 Thessalonians 5:21)

 

[starless]

I understand that many Evolutionists feel obliged to attack the intellect and credentials of anyone who dares question the ToE. To me, such tactics expose a certain desperation; the same for dismissing the Bible as "myth".

That is because when talking about science, intellect and credibility are most important. Quoting pseudo-scientists, and passing them as real scientists doesn't work.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

". Time and time again, such claims that the Bible is not true history or scientifically correct have been turned back, and the Bible vindicated as true.

Really? Examples please.

 

[rusra02]

Really? Examples please.

I already provided examples in this thread.
Here are a few: At one time scholars doubted the existence of Assyrian King Sargon, mentioned at Isaiah 20:1. However, in the 1840’s, archaeologists began unearthing the palace of this king. Now, Sargon is one of the best-known Assyrian kings.

Critics questioned the existence of Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor who ordered Jesus’ death. (Matthew 27:1, 22-24) But in 1961 a stone bearing Pilate’s name and rank was discovered near the city of Caesarea in Israel.
(Source: w09 5/1)

There are many others: Belshazzar, for one, mentioned by Daniel. Critics claimed the Bible was mistaken, until 1854, when cuneiform tablets with his name were uncovered by archeologists in Ur.

Werner Keller said in the introduction of his book The Bible as History: “In view of the overwhelming mass of authentic and well-attested evidence now available, . . . there kept hammering on my brain this one sentence: ‘The Bible is right after all!’”

 

[Apostlelypse]

My goodness.
You even pick and choose which Biblical Morals to accept and toss out...

Like I said, I don't agree with everything in it, and don't follow the creationist story. So yes, Newb.

 

[Apostlelypse]

The same Jesus who says most of humankind will burn in Hell forever; or that one should cut off their hands or take out their eyes in order to avoid sin; or that one should love him more than his family; or that he hasn't come to Earth to bring peace but a sword; or that one should kill children who curse their parents; or that slaves should obey and serve their masters sincerely; that good guy Jesus?

What's wrong with you? Have you actually read the Bible?

The Dude walked on water, Get with it.

 

[Apostlelypse]

I must say, the information you were willing to share about Red Lobster/biscuits and all that was just inspiring. Brought my understanding of the sacred role of cheddar biscuits to a whole new metaphysical level. I am awed by your eloquence. It certainly is more entertaining than that apostleyptic drivel. Of course, I will abstain from emulating you since I would have to apply the biscuits much further south on my male companion to get the same effect and that might not end well….

Now the apoplectic apostleizer issue is another one of those things that should not be accorded more importance than it is due. You are dealing with someone who is mistakenly assuming that it is up to us to point out the many error of his way.

Why bother, we know he is wrong and cannot actually provide a valid response to anything he rants about as there are no credible sources to quote, nothing worthwhile to say. He merely assumes that some ridiculous bible verse quote solves all the problems he has. And so he is one of a large number of patronizing bible bullies who cannot understand the simplest scientific theories. The links he provides are useless because nothing he says has any value outside his ever so narrowly constructed universe.

I suggest we let him bang his bible on the table and we go and meet for biscuits at Red Lobster 34.

I understand science fine. Why don't you just prove evolution right here and now smart guy? If you can't maybe you should go back to school. My son tells me there's an extra seat in Ms Krabappel's class. I studied physics under Professor Frink, he taught me that scientific ideas change all the time. You''re an idiot to think otherwise. You probably never noticed with your head up Wook's *** having wet dreams about bay biscuits. Just for the sake of not being Dicks to each other, What is your science background?

 

[viole]

The Dude walked on water, Get with it.

But He did not say that slavery is wrong.

What is more important?

Ciao

- viole

 

[Apostlelypse]

But He did not say that slavery is wrong.


- viole

Can't argue with that. Not enough people opposed slavery until a few hundred years ago. We hold Jesus to higher standards than Red Lobster Cheddar Bay Biscuits, but where do you draw the line?

 

[metis]

Again, I refer interested persons to check for themselves. There is no way to know for certain environmental conditions thousands of Years in the past.

I've checked this out many times over as I am an anthropologist whereas the research is important to us and whereas we rely on C-14 to help us date certain items. What you don't seem to realize is that tree-rings used in succession, have helped to correct the variations with the radiation levels.

You seemingly are suggesting that the scientists that specialize in this area know far less then you do. Also, a reminder that C-14 is only one technique out of many used to date objects, and very often they can be used to cross-check others.

 

[starless]

The Dude walked on water, Get with it.

Criss Angel walked on water as well.