Why is pleasure bad according to any religion you belong to?

[ChieftheCef]

You are trying to get me to justify beliefs held under the rubric of religious and racial bigotry with an appeal to objective facts? Seriously?

Yeah this makes you look insane. You're a troll, I can tell, I was a troll once, but since alleviating my mental nonwellbing I am much better off and getting better every day.

 

[ChieftheCef]

I think you are explaining Luciferian thinking. Is that what you are explaining, or are you talking about Justgeorge's religion? Both?

Who is JustGeorge? This is not beliefs, this is Science. It works.

 

[ChieftheCef]

I think you are explaining Luciferian thinking. Is that what you are explaining, or are you talking about Justgeorge's religion? Both?

Try this class. It works, I'm no longer suicidal. No medication, just a few of the changes in daily routine they mention. In fact I just meditated this morning, when I got up, only for 5 minutes. But I can feel it. Many think happiness is a myth in this world, because they are tortured by bad behavior of all amounts (in an actually manageable way, but, still if you're not resiliant, like this course teaches, you will succumb to sadness. Instead overcome adversity). General goodness, goodness for each and everyone both universal and otherwise, is what makes us happy. Skills like charity, creativeness, kindness, humor and other universally accepted values that earn the praise of our fellow human beings, and even animals, and plants, and fungi, and bacteria (if what you did actually got down on their level). Happiness is all about being good to other beings and yourself, being positive within and without. It's about making the fractal more diverse, even by products, carbon dioxide in the air (though too much is unnecessary and it's currently started being mitigated), and death! (though do not deal it to human beings, pets or animals [as long as they are not pests the animals}) That's what everything is doing. It's all attracting and then repulsing, making greater wholes, enough of which for us to exist in discordant harmony.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Try this class. It works, I'm no longer suicidal. No medication, just a few of the changes in daily routine they mention. In fact I just meditated this morning, when I got up, only for 5 minutes. But I can feel it. Many think happiness is a myth in this world, because they are tortured by bad behavior of all amounts (in an actually manageable way, but, still if you're not resiliant, like this course teaches, you will succumb to sadness. Instead overcome adversity). General goodness, goodness for each and everyone both universal and otherwise, is what makes us happy. Skills like charity, creativeness, kindness, humor and other universally accepted values that earn the praise of our fellow human beings, and even animals, and plants, and fungi, and bacteria (if what you did actually got down on their level). Happiness is all about being good to other beings and yourself, being positive within and without. It's about making the fractal more diverse, even by products, carbon dioxide in the air (though too much is unnecessary and it's currently started being mitigated), and death! (though do not deal it to human beings, pets or animals [as long as they are not pests the animals}) That's what everything is doing. It's all attracting and then repulsing, making greater wholes, enough of which for us to exist in discordant harmony.

This reminds me of a youtube video about ketamine therapy. People with depression can sometimes break free under a few minutes of ketamine closely observed by an anesthesiologist.

 

[ChieftheCef]

I think you are explaining Luciferian thinking. Is that what you are explaining, or are you talking about Justgeorge's religion? Both?

Where can I find this Luciferian thought? I didn't see it in the Wikipedia page. Is it theistic or atheistic?

 

[ChieftheCef]

This reminds me of a youtube video about ketamine therapy. People with depression can sometimes break free under a few minutes of ketamine closely observed by an anesthesiologist.

I'd rather do it without drugs I'm unfamiliar with.

 

[JustGeorge]

Does it consider pleasure to be unnecessary?

Only if you're a renunciate. Otherwise, its a normal part of life, and one of the reasons for being. (Artha, dharma, kama, moksha)

 

[Brickjectivity]

Where can I find this Luciferian thought? I didn't see it in the Wikipedia page. Is it theistic or atheistic?

I have not asserted knowledge of Luciferian thinking. Your profile says you are Luciferian. I looked this up, because you posted in interfaith about your religion, and you seemed to represent it as your religion. This confused me, and afterwards you then said it was not about religion but science. The post in quotes only is an attempt by me to determine what the context of your reply was. I know not what your Luciferian writers say.

 

[ChieftheCef]

I have not asserted knowledge of Luciferian thinking. Your profile says you are Luciferian. I looked this up, because you posted in interfaith about your religion, and you seemed to represent it as your religion. This confused me, and afterwards you then said it was not about religion but science. The post in quotes only is an attempt by me to determine what the context of your reply was. I know not what your Luciferian writers say.

Ah but I am a pluralist most of all. I do believe some if what the left hand path has to say.

 

[JustGeorge]

Who is JustGeorge? This is not beliefs, this is Science. It works.

I'm JustGeorge.

My beliefs are science?

That makes me feel very powerful.

(But I know I'm not.)

 

[ChieftheCef]

I'm JustGeorge.

My beliefs are science?

That makes me feel very powerful.

(But I know I'm not.)

That's actually incredible. I'd like to get back to that level of awe. That's why I'm personifying Science into the living world. It's truly a great machine.

 

[William2004]

According to many religious doctrines, pleasure is not inherently bad. However, some religions believe that indulging in certain pleasures can lead to negative consequences. For example, in Islam, it is believed that indulging in excessive pleasure can lead to a lack of self-control and can distract one from their religious duties.

 

[chinu]

It all depends on the people involved. Some would find it highly pleasurable and exciting to find their partner in bed with someone else.

... and and and serve them (2) two cup of hot coffee after the course ?

 

[chinu]

You sound like a troll. Just a spat due to lack of even meager induldgence reply. No, that doesn't always happen. You'll find the pleasanter you are the more pleasant your company. I can't believe your company is very much on the actual better side.

And, I can't believe your botheration of providing company is very much on the actual better side.

Friend, there's a big difference between botheration and pleasure.

 

[Maninthemiddle]

No. There's a rule in the Cosmos: general badness does not overcome goodness in number or time or any other ways except for being lesser. Most grass isn't eaten. Most drug users don't use every day. Most bullets don't hit. Most animals reproduce before being eaten. Most disgustingness of the animal kingdom's physical appearance is where it can't be seen. It is a rule the universe follows to be alive.

So according to your Cosmos Theory if I kill someone it’s not my fault, we have created rules on right and wrong to benefit society.
If the Cosmos handled everything why would we even bother with laws.

 

[ChristineM]

... and and and serve them (2) two cup of hot coffee after the course ?

It has been known, or join in

 

[oldbadger]

I've heard something before but can't even remember it

The Israelites were allowed pleasure.

Deuteronomy {24:5} When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: [but] he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

Newly weds free of all duties for a whole year..........

 

[ChieftheCef]

The Israelites were allowed pleasure.

Deuteronomy {24:5} When a man hath taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war, neither shall he be charged with any business: [but] he shall be free at home one year, and shall cheer up his wife which he hath taken.

Newly weds free of all duties for a whole year..........

To say they were allowed pleasure is a misnomer because of things like the fact that that was to encourage reproduction and Jesus's choice line...

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.


"If you see tits; die" to put it so the kids can understand in Sunday school, right?

Eye for an eye makes the world go blind

 

[oldbadger]

To say they were allowed pleasure is a misnomer because of things like the fact that that was to encourage reproduction and Jesus's choice line...

27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.


"If you see tits; die" to put it so the kids can understand in Sunday school, right?

Eye for an eye makes the world go blind

So you do believe that Jesus said that in that way, as written in the gospels?

A whole year's holiday for newly weds..... Such joy for them!

 

[ChieftheCef]

So you do believe that Jesus said that in that way, as written in the gospels?

A whole year's holiday for newly weds..... Such joy for them!

And how do you imply to know what was said thousands of year's before your time if his words aren't gospel