Simplelogic
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Tell me…What were the laws, decrees, statutes that you believe Abraham was keeping? Most of your Rabbi's agree that Abraham was keeping ALL the mitzvot so what say you?
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Why Islam, Christianity and modern Judaism are all apostate religious institutions.
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Tell me…What were the laws, decrees, statutes that you believe Abraham was keeping? Most of your Rabbi's agree that Abraham was keeping ALL the mitzvot so what say you?
Simplelogic
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I never said I didn't read Talmud. I simply don't place it at the same level of authority as you do. Rabbi's don't get to make laws.
rosends
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There is no prohibition against making logical assumptions about the text. The prohibition is against adding or taking away commandments which is what your Rabbi's are doing.[/QUOTE]
So your bizarre and selective inferences are not adding to the text because they don't add to a particular litany of requirements? Ah, I see. And your inferences are what allow you not to walk away from your house with a shovel and bury your feces, which takes away from the required laws.
rosends
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It isn't about what I say because I say stuff based on rabbinic interpretation. You, who deny this, can only claim that Abe kept the laws given to him unless you invent and add narrative which isn't textual based on what you want to find.
rosends
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But they get to make interpretation that you like to support your ideas. If they disagree with yours, they must be wrong. Got it.
Simplelogic
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So your bizarre and selective inferences are not adding to the text because they don't add to a particular litany of requirements? Ah, I see. And your inferences are what allow you not to walk away from your house with a shovel and bury your feces, which takes away from the required laws.[/QUOTE]
You might want to reread the text again. (Dt 23:15) are instructions for how an ARMY is to conduct itself while on missions.
Simplelogic
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Hey, lets listen to one of your Rabbi's on the "Godly" way to take a ****:
Kitzur Shulchan Aruch, "Chapter 4: Behavior on the Toilet and Laws of the Blessing "Who has created":
"(Section 3) One may not defecate standing up, nor may one force oneself by pushing too much, so as not to tear the rectum.[3] One may not hurry in leaving the toilet, until it is certain that he does not need to defecate any more. When a person urinates standing, he must be careful not to spatter on his shoes or his clothing. A person must be very careful not to hold his circumcision in his hand."
Ohhhhh….now I get it!!
Kitzur Shulchan Aruch, "Chapter 4: Behavior on the Toilet and Laws of the Blessing "Who has created":
"(Section 3) One may not defecate standing up, nor may one force oneself by pushing too much, so as not to tear the rectum.[3] One may not hurry in leaving the toilet, until it is certain that he does not need to defecate any more. When a person urinates standing, he must be careful not to spatter on his shoes or his clothing. A person must be very careful not to hold his circumcision in his hand."
Ohhhhh….now I get it!!
Simplelogic
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They are wrong when they claim an authority they don't have.
rosends
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You might want to reread the text again. (Dt 23:15) are instructions for how an ARMY is to conduct itself while on missions.[/QUOTE]
Oh, so your claim here was not about the general populace, so the argument you derived from it as applicable to the entire Israelite nation fails. Got it. And he part where you said that YOU accept all the limitations of the verses means that you are at war.
rosends
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the same authority is expressed when they say that Abe kept all the commandments. You just like that so you cede authority to them.
rosends
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yes, this clearly fascinates you. There are different levels of laws in Judaism. You haven't studied the religion very much apparently. Feel free to run along to google or whatever other site you are copying from. It just belies an underlying ignorance of what Judaism is, or how its legal process operates.
Simplelogic
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This Rabbi is considered authoritative by most. Don't pretend that this guy is fringe.
rosends
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If you don't know the place of the kitzur, then just admit it. Ganzfried is Ganzfried.
Simplelogic
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Oh, so your claim here was not about the general populace, so the argument you derived from it as applicable to the entire Israelite nation fails. Got it. And he part where you said that YOU accept all the limitations of the verses means that you are at war.[/QUOTE]
I never said that this command was to be reinterpreted for the nation of Israel buddy. The command is exactly what it says! For an army.
rosends
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I never said that this command was to be reinterpreted for the nation of Israel buddy. The command is exactly what it says! For an army.[/QUOTE]
actually, you wrote "This is why He commended His people to dispose or bury their fecal matter" and used it to support the contention that God commanded his people to limit exposure to fecal matter (post 43). Now you say that it is limited in whom it applies to and when. So you are saying God DIDN'T command his people to limit exposure to fecal matter in general. So your argument fails.
Simplelogic
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Whatever dude. If you want to stress out about how hard you push while taking a crap then go right ahead. And you better make sure not to touch your penis while your at it!
rosends
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and just a note before I go to bed -- Deut 23:15 is not talking about an army during war time. verse 11 was. Nothing after verse 11 indicates war. In fact, it says that a person should go "out of the camp" to defecate and bury. The army going to war was not in the camp. And if you still claim that it relates ONLY to the army, then the verse about seminal emissions only relates to soldiers. Brilliant.
Simplelogic
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actually, you wrote "This is why He commended His people to dispose or bury their fecal matter" and used it to support the contention that God commanded his people to limit exposure to fecal matter (post 43). Now you say that it is limited in whom it applies to and when. So you are saying God DIDN'T command his people to limit exposure to fecal matter in general. So your argument fails.[/QUOTE]
Ummm….the text obviously implies something negative about fecal matter. Any logic person could rightly apply this logic anywhere else because of that fact. The specific command was given to the Army of Israel though. This is not as difficult as you are making it.
Simplelogic
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Just because a specific command is given to certain people does not mean that its logic can't be applied elsewhere. Thanks for the lively discussion. Goodnite.
rosends
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that's called "adding a commandment." Well done. Good night.