Why So Much Trinity Bashing?

[Spice]

So the "substance" of a beetle or duck, were they supposedly made in God's image as well? What do you think? Maybe gorillas too were made in God's image. Again, substance or were they substantially made in God's image, you know, with substance and mind. What do you think?

I believe what we share in common with God, what part of us is made in His image, is the eternal essence. The parts of us that are of this world, the physical body, the persona, can not be destroyed either, as per science. However, they most definitely will be reconfigured as all matter and energy will be. But that "essence" that is eternal, and is "of God" is very individualized, unique, and pliable. We are here for the opportunity to grow and reunite with God's essense, IMO.

 

[YoursTrue]

I believe what we share in common with God, what part of us is made in His image, is the eternal essence. The parts of us that are of this world, the physical body, the persona, can not be destroyed either, as per science. However, they most definitely will be reconfigured as all matter and energy will be. But that "essence" that is eternal, and is "of God" is very individualized, unique, and pliable. We are here for the opportunity to grow and reunite with God's essense, IMO.

So when you die, if you think such a thing as death happens, what do you think happens to you?
Are you saying you are not united with "God's essence" now, right?

 

[YoursTrue]

Pretty much, although they seem to throw a lot of poo at each other.

so do you think the three persons of the trinity throw poo at each other also?

 

[SLPCCC]

Which religion converts to Christianity most?

I don't know. Have you heard of Speakers Corner?

 

[YoursTrue]

I believe what we share in common with God, what part of us is made in His image, is the eternal essence. The parts of us that are of this world, the physical body, the persona, can not be destroyed either, as per science. However, they most definitely will be reconfigured as all matter and energy will be. But that "essence" that is eternal, and is "of God" is very individualized, unique, and pliable. We are here for the opportunity to grow and reunite with God's essense, IMO.

Where are you getting this information from about eternal essence that you say we share in common with God?

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't know. Have you heard of Speakers Corner?

Hi, @SLPCCC -- just wondering if you saw my question earlier about if you agree that the temple of his body was not his physical body? So in your opinion, what was the "temple of his body"? Any idea?

 

[Balthazzar]

so do you think the three persons of the trinity throw poo at each other also?

Very likely. We present ourselves above others who are likewise part of the body. It wouldn't appear to be anything desirable, but then neither is learning the ropes the hard way. Chimpanzee's sling poo at each other and seem to laugh about it. We have our humors too. To be offended is one thing. To be in denial is another.

 

[YoursTrue]

Very likely. We present ourselves above others who are likewise part of the body. It wouldn't appear to be anything desirable, but then neither is learning the ropes the hard way. Chimpanzee's sling poo at each other and seem to laugh about it. We have our humors too. To be offended is one thing. To be in denial is another.

lol, I'm going to try to keep that as reference to your beliefs, i.e., that you believe the three members of the trinity throw poo at each other...

 

[Balthazzar]

OK, so beetles and ducks and chimpanzess were created in God's image, according to your so-called Christian evolutionary beliefs. minus some of the thought process. thank you. Maybe, because you say beetles, ducks and chimpanzees haven't spoken to you about it so you don't know. thanks a lot. That helps also.

The evolutionary differences apparent enough to distinguish us from them, but this does not negate the source from where we come.

 

[Spice]

So when you die, if you think such a thing as death happens, what do you think happens to you?
Are you saying you are not united with "God's essence" now, right?

In my belief, when I die, my body and my persona (personality) both return to dust and energy, respectively. However, my individual essence, that eternal piece that sprung from God's essence, will be judged for growth of purity and be "consecrated" (Jer. 1) into another configuration of dust and energy to "pay the last copper" ( Mt. 5) the punishment of lessons learned thus far, and this purification will continue until conquering the world as Jesus achieved. Then the final "resurrection" will place my essence into "a pillar of the temple of my God; never... [to] go out of it." (Rev. 3) From there I don't speculate and have not yet reached an opinion. The New Jerusalem? Returned to Earth in a New Garden of Eden? Some other heavenly destiny? It doesn't matter, because now my only concern is to make the best of this incarnation.

 

[blü 2]

Jesus was taught the true testimony by God and it was the major first part of his job to give it to the (Jewish) people who would spread it worldwide - but they, in the main, rejected him and the testimony.

The Jewish people had no reason to think of Jesus as a messiah, since he was not a civil, military or religious leader of theirs, and had never even come close to being anointed by the priesthood (which as you know is the meaning of messiah / christus). Nor, rendering unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's, was he in tune with the prevailing Jewish political mood.

And since he only arrived in Jerusalem a very few days before his death, very few people who mattered would have heard of him. The reports that he was greeted by huge crowds is likewise not credible, though he may have had a band of followers.

He then proceeded to make sure he was killed, as had been his intention all along (eg Mark 2:20).

 

[YoursTrue]

In my belief, when I die, my body and my persona (personality) both return to dust and energy, respectively. However, my individual essence, that eternal piece that sprung from God's essence, will be judged for growth of purity and be "consecrated" (Jer. 1) into another configuration of dust and energy to "pay the last copper" ( Mt. 5) the punishment of lessons learned thus far, and this purification will continue until conquering the world as Jesus achieved. Then the final "resurrection" will place my essence into "a pillar of the temple of my God; never... [to] go out of it." (Rev. 3) From there I don't speculate and have not yet reached an opinion. The New Jerusalem? Returned to Earth in a New Garden of Eden? Some other heavenly destiny? It doesn't matter, because now my only concern is to make the best of this incarnation.

Your "individual essence" that spring from God's essence? OK, I'd rather go with what the Bible says. From dust to dust. And we can be remembered by God -- every hair on our heads, just as God sees even a little sparrow that falls to the ground. I understand that far better than essence and returning to the essence, etc. Bye for now...

 

[YoursTrue]

The evolutionary differences apparent enough to distinguish us from them, but this does not negate the source from where we come.

Thanks, but at this point I won't ask you what you believe about the source. Bye for now.

 

[Balthazzar]

lol, I'm going to try to keep that as reference to your beliefs, i.e., that you believe the three members of the trinity throw poo at each other...

It's a x crossroads to y branching between chromosomes I would guess. What I will insist upon, if you are to remember anything beyond what you're choosing to remember about my views, is the separation is evident, as is our source. Our way of living differs from the others who branched in other directions. They or rather some of them sling poo. We simply claim superiority over those who do sometimes. The sacred should not be left to fade into nothing.

Edit: I think it important to mention the acknowledgment of chromosomes being gender related, as opposed to specific to species and the branching, but keep in mind how other lifeforms reproduce from themselves.

 

[Spice]

Where are you getting this information from about eternal essence that you say we share in common with God?

Through a lifetime of study and contemplation of the Jewish, and Christian Scriptures, the rejected Canon writings, the Holy Texts of other religions, commentaries and essays, secular philosophies, etc., etc. And (to really sound wacked) watching the sun, and the moons waning the tides, listening to the trees, and mindfully breathing deeply . . .the 4 elements of life -- fire (sun), water (tides), earth (trees), air (breath) -- as the Spirit hovers to guide me.
I come to the garden alone,
while the dew is still on the roses.
And the voice I hear
Falling on my ear.....

Oh yeah, check out Jer. 1 .... you were you, and known, before to were put in your mother's womb. At birth, you were given your map.

Namaste

 

[walt]

Why did the Apostle Paul when he was called Saul believe so differently? Jesus had to blind him and talk to him, and by doing this it transformed Saul's thinking. How do I know that I'm not thinking just like Saul? Incorrectly?

How do I know if my thinking is in line with Jesus Words?

First, I write down the 95% of Jesus words that agree on one subject. Second, The Father's words that agree. Third, the Angels and Apostles words that agree.

Then I take the 5% of the scriptures that seem to not agree, and keep looking for Bibles
until I find several Bibles that have wording that agrees with the 95%.

What's the key? Keep Praying and don't give up until the 5% agrees with the 95%!

 

[YoursTrue]

It's a x crossroads to y branching between chromosomes I would guess. What I will insist upon, if you are to remember anything beyond what you're choosing to remember about my views, is the separation is evident, as is our source. Our way of living differs from the others who branched in other directions. They or rather some of them sling poo. We simply claim superiority over those who do sometimes. The sacred should not be left to fade into nothing.

Your viewpoint is unfathomable, imo. And unscriptural. But then you probably don't really believe the Bible anyway. So I leave off.

 

[YoursTrue]

Why did the Apostle Paul when he was called Saul believe so differently? Jesus had to blind him and talk to him, and by doing this it transformed Saul's thinking. How do I know that I'm not thinking just like Saul? Incorrectly?

Very good explanation, I like that. It makes sense. Jesus didn't HAVE to blind Saul but humbled him, thanks for that.

How do I know if my thinking is in line with Jesus Words?

First, I write down the 95% of Jesus words that agree on one subject. Second, The Father's words that agree. Third, the Angels and Apostles words that agree.

Then I take the 5% of the scriptures that seem to not agree, and keep looking for Bibles
until I find several Bibles that have wording that agrees with the 95%.

What's the key? Keep Praying and don't give up until the 5% agrees with the 95%!

Thank you, walt. Appreciate it.

 

[Balthazzar]

Your viewpoint is unfathomable, imo. And unscriptural. But then you probably don't really believe the Bible anyway. So I leave off.

Leave oft to where? Oh, brother where art thou. Thy many sorrows be well known.

 

[walt]

If you have a belief and 10 scriptures to prove it is true and another person has a totally different belief and 10 scriptures to prove it is true, Does that prove anything?

I think the proof is only revealed after you can take all 20 scriptures from both sides of the discussion and find agreement, in such a way that every single scripture is 100% true! and contributes to the conclusion 100%.