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why some of arabs hate USA?

astarath

Well-Known Member
democracy is far from the solution needed in the middle east. Added confusion and dissension is all it has to offer.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
And you don't think it is justified? With a combination of 9/11 and this most resent incident at Fort Hood were a Muslim stood before a crowd of doctors and in a speech said that all those how didn't believe in Islam should be burned alive or beheaded, and then went on a killing spree. When everyday Islamic terrorists strap bombs to themselves and kill innocent people, and most resent, a Muslim was exposed as being the master mind behind an attempt to blow up the NY subway system. A simple book of fiction written by Salmon Rushdie was greeted with world wide demonstrations by the Muslim communities were the book was burned and chants of burning the author followed. He was marked for death by Islamic death squads and his publicist shot in the back with a high powered rifle. Can you not understand why many are suspicious of Muslims?
Still not fair against the muslims that would never do that.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
I never said it was fair, but this is simply the reality of how people feel. I personally would be very nervous boarding a plane behind a man Wearing a Turban and carrying a small package, and I don't think I am alone with that nervousness.
You are not, I also can feel such things, I just try and keep my mind free from such prejudice and try to actually judge people for the individuals they are and not for what religion or part of the world they are born in. Also I think it is the same issue the arabs who hate america suffer from, even if their reasons to are different it is basically the same.
 

richardlowellt

Well-Known Member
You are not, I also can feel such things, I just try and keep my mind free from such prejudice and try to actually judge people for the individuals they are and not for what religion or part of the world they are born in.
Which is always a good idea, but what do you do when you don't know these people as individuals, and only know that they are part of Islam? I fully realize it is a stereotype, but I personally thing it is one that is justifiable.
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
Which is always a good idea, but what do you do when you don't know these people as individuals, and only know that they are part of Islam? I fully realize it is a stereotype, but I personally thing it is one that is justifiable.
I don´t, if we did we would be no better then the extremists. Well, maybe a little better, we have to act on those stereotypes to actually become as bad as them, but still.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
I personally would be very nervous boarding a plane behind a man Wearing a Turban.....what do you do when you don't know these people as individuals, and only know that they are part of Islam?
Almost all of the men wearing turbans that I have met have been Sikh. This is where prejudice and stereotypes become a serious concern. You'd be sitting behind a "Muslim", scared ****eless because he has a turban on, victim to the nonsense stereotype that Muslims want to blow people up.

A group of boys forced an old Asian man to remove his turban on a bus in Glasgow a few years back to prove he wasn't hiding a bomb. He was both terrified and mortified. This stems from the same "justifiable" stereotyping that you are talking about, as I see it.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Which is always a good idea, but what do you do when you don't know these people as individuals, and only know that they are part of Islam? I fully realize it is a stereotype, but I personally thing it is one that is justifiable.

this is why i would not go any Western nation at least for 5 years. i rather wait till they realize real evil who have blood of innocent on their hands are the richest who have nothing to do with religion or Muslims. i can understand your fear though. but you should know this is not healthy. this is paranoid.






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.lava

Veteran Member
Almost all of the men wearing turbans that I have met have been Sikh.

i remember when they said Al Queda was responsible of 9/11 attacks, one American guy ran over a man with his car for revenge assuming he was a Muslim. he was a Hindu.






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Onkara

Well-Known Member
i remember when they said Al Queda was responsible of 9/11 attacks, one American guy ran over a man with his car for revenge assuming he was a Muslim. he was a Hindu.






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Perhaps it is uncontrollable emotions which made the action unfold?

Am I so free from my own reactive emotions that I can judge another person/religion/race based on theirs?
 
Perhaps it is uncontrollable emotions which made the action unfold?

Am I so free from my own reactive emotions that I can judge another person/religion/race based on theirs?
That's a ridiculous question, if you can't judge the actions of that man then you are unfit to judge anything.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
Perhaps it is uncontrollable emotions which made the action unfold?

Am I so free from my own reactive emotions that I can judge another person/religion/race based on theirs?

dear friend, both fear and hatred are blinding emotions. seems like there are Westerns who's blinded by fear and there are Eastern who's blinded by hatred. IMO they belong with each other. they are opposite sides of the same thing. i mean, even though they appear as opposites to each other, they are like two different parts of the same body, they are under the same roof. of course people can justify themselves. that's the easiet thing to do. therefor most people do it. i know it is terible to witness all the violence. but you should know that this side of the planet is experincing the same and even more real because today fear of Western is based on propaganda and words but in Middle East everyday at least a few dozen of people get killed. it would be silly to say Muslims are killing each other. because there is poverty, thugh these guys have weapons, intelligence..ect so to speak Western support these people. as they help extremists by giving them weapons, training them..etc they also use their existence to scare you so that they can ruin Muslim nations from within. similar tactic is used by leaders of Middle East, they need USA to be hated. but this is all just a game. both sides are using their public. without support of public, governments have two choices. they either leave or they become completely fascist. long story short, it may seem like Muslims has started all of this but no. Muslims were there for 14 centuries. USA has started this chaos and they insist to continue and make more excuses to enter Muslim nations. so they buy Muslim leaders and we know it. but they can not buy public.






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.lava

Veteran Member
This is great, this thread shows clearly the evil of the Abrahamic religions.

it is only human who turns out to be evil or not. religion is just a path that leads God. people who wants to reach God would not start war to gain more power. they simply feel thankful for what they already have. if you see so much evil, look within your heart cos that's the place where you find reasons.






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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
This is great, this thread shows clearly the evil of the Abrahamic religions.

and this statement shows that you don't have to follow an abrahamic religion to love hate and those that do hate others. elhamdulilah i'm not like you.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
it is only human who turns out to be evil or not. religion is just a path that leads God. people who wants to reach God would not start war to gain more power. they simply feel thankful for what they already have. if you see so much evil, look within your heart cos that's the place where you find reasons.

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I agree with this. There are many kinds of people in religions and many reasons for being in a religion but those who are in religion with a passion to understand truth and seek God are not interested in hate or violence and politics.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
which ones dont you hate? we could start there and analyse your hatred for people you don't even know, sit down and relax and tell me all about it.

i don't hate those americans that are muslim, i don't hate those that don't hate islam and muslims, i don't hate any of the kids up untill they grow up to hate muslims and kill my people, etc etc.
oh did i mentione that i hate the english too? :p

a brief highly inaccurate assessment at best

inaccurate? thats not what reality says. well the way i said it there wasn't all that good to be honest, it takes much more to explain it all. that is for a different thread, i recon we should leave it out of this, what do you say?

Because that a reason for Arabs to hate the US because they wont let any tom dick or Harry manufacture them.

sorry you've lost me with this, i don't understand it.


to defend themself aggainst those that do have them. do you think the 2'nd world war was fair, Kai? the US dropping 2 atomic bombs on Japan, do you think thats fair?

for the record i am against all nuclear weapons and would like to see them banished from the face of the Earth.

so you are not aggainst iran making them to defend itself from those other countries that do have them.
 
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Gharib

I want Khilafah back
But eselam didn't you say you hate the USA and most Americans?

yes thats correct. atleast i have a reason for my hatred, but he has none and yet he thinks it's great that people like me hate americans. so again, elhamdulilah i'm not like him.
 
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