Audie
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Theyd prolly decide i am a witch.
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Why the Worship of Ancient Greece and Rome?
- Thread starter Rival
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Theyd prolly decide i am a witch.
Except Mediaeval Christendom denied the existence of witches.
Christians made the weather bad?
Yes, they were scientifically illiterate, remember? If only we'd have continued with Ancient Greece and Rome, by 700ce we'd have had artificial weather, duh.Christians made the weather bad?
A lot of people don't realize that the witch trials were mostly a Protestant phenomenon and so happened well after the middle ages. They are more a phenomenon of the Enlightenment time period than before.
But I think many people confuse the witch trials with the Inquisition. of course, the Inquisition is also a fairly late phenomenon, primarily happening after the reconquest of Spain.
Most folks seem clueless that there's even a distinction between Mediaeval and Early Modern.
Augustus
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It's always funny that Christians get the blame for this despite being the people who gave us most of the record we actually still have.
Vikings repeatedly kill educated people, burn their texts and eradicate monasticism and education in significant geographical areas...
"The Christian dark ages! They hated knowledge! The pagans were much more enlightened"
Prior to the translation movement, there were very few sources available to western Europe. It really took the stimulus from the Arab commentators to reinvigorate western interest in philosophy as well as making the ancient texts available at all.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
I realise that, but I don't think that makes it "complete."
Oh.
I use hyperbolic language a lot. I have a dramatic flair most folks eventually learn to see past. Lol.
It's always funny that Christians get the blame for this despite being the people who gave us most of the record we actually still have.
Vikings repeatedly kill educated people, burn their texts and eradicate monasticism and education in significant geographical areas...
"The Christian dark ages! They hated knowledge! The pagans were much more enlightened"
Don't get me started about the false ideas about the Vikings.
Agreed. if it wasn't for the monks and clerics, we would have almost no histories of the early middle ages.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
S'ok, my PhD is in Hyperbole.
Downplaying the significant harms that theocratic laws caused throughout parts of Christendom doesn't seem to be a sound argument against the exaggerated demonization of medieval Europe.
Rome did continue: Byzantine Empire - Wikipedia
I don't think the Byzantines ever invented artificial weather.
It was a joke.
Yes, the Eastern Roman Empire continued for a long time. I would say this thread focuses on the West.Rome did continue: Byzantine Empire - Wikipedia
I don't think the Byzantines ever invented artificial weather.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, you got your view and I got mine. I don't view any humans evil, but that properly makes me "evil" or what not.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Come on, the headgear, you've gotta love the headgear.
It was sarcasm.Yeah, you got your view and I got mine. I don't view any humans evil, but that properly makes me "evil" or what not.
It's always funny that Christians get the blame for this despite being the people who gave us most of the record we actually still have.
Vikings repeatedly kill educated people, burn their texts and eradicate monasticism and education in significant geographical areas...
"The Christian dark ages! They hated knowledge! The pagans were much more enlightened"
Pretty much every major civilization and religion throughout history has had its violent and oppressive periods. In my opinion, the term "Christian dark ages" doesn't seem so outlandish when applied to events like the Inquisition, Crusades, and forced conversions. It just doesn't mean paganism was a beacon of enlightenment for Europe or anywhere else.
I was more responding to the sentiment I've encountered numerous times that Christianity wasn't "too bad" when it ruled Europe. While this may be true for some periods, I think there are plenty of examples that underline the importance of isolating religion from state law.