Why Would an Omnipotent God Want Worshipers?

[Tumah]

Perhaps it's in the word worship. Here one passages translation uses the word Serve and worship interchangeably. And since God is good, it definitely does not mean worship in any bad sense of the word.

Exodus 23:25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you,

The word serve and worship are the same thing in Hebrew.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Yes but God shouldn't treat us as if we're monkeys, we may kill some goats to eat
and we're still a lovely creatures.

Yet... all the so-called "holey" books do exactly that: treat humans as if they are chattel, property or slaves....

This is likely because they were all written during the Bronze Age, when slavery was commonplace, and acceptable.

I expect Superior Morality from any being with the title "god".

So far? None of those "gods" as described qualify as superior.

 

[Tumah]

The abstract is lost if there is no recognition in it. Something as invisible as any deity needs recognition. Followers of an omnipotent God believe in Him to recognize His presence. Whether or not that's "right" is a different matter and something that is not in my place to argue, mainly due to my lacking of an ability to recognize this entity.

That isn't true of a primary cause. The main quality is that it lacks dependence.

 

[George-ananda]

Its a metaphor of the relationship between G-d and Israel.

I understand that, but is it more a 'love' song than a 'worship' song which is the topic the OP was asking about.

 

[Tumah]

I understand that, but is it more a 'love' song than a 'worship' song which is the topic the OP was asking about.

I was responding to your statement about mutual love being new age.

Although I don't understand the difference you are creating between "worship" and "love".

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Your argument aside, are you bringing proof of your position from a fantasy television show?

It is an example of my point. Emphasis.

Star trek is a good series. Has many messages underneath the story lines. Thats all.

 

[Milton Platt]

There are man-made gods but only one God.

No, only man-made gods....unless you cand provide the nnecessary evidence to support your claim that one of them is

There is no testable, falsifiable evidence for the existence of God. It is a matter of faith alone.

Now you provided some testable, falsifiable evidence God does not exist or you are just blowing smoke.

There is more evidence for the existence of God, than there is that He does not exist---Everything that is not eternal, must have a source---The heavens are declaring the glory of God. Now provide your evidence for the source of matter,k energy and life. Please include how life originated from lifeless elements. Even real science says this is impossible.

It takes more faith to believe what you believe, than it does to believe what I believe.

I admit I have no evidence, will you admit you also have none? I doubt it.

I am not making a claim....I was asking you to justify your claim.

 

[Fool]

Perhaps it's in the word worship. Here one passages translation uses the word Serve and worship interchangeably. And since God is good, it definitely does not mean worship in any bad sense of the word.

Exodus 23:25 Worship the LORD your God, and his blessing will be on your food and water. I will take away sickness from among you,

honor, respect, everyone and everything with

He doesn't and omnipotence doesn't play a part in creating worshipers. Omnibenevolence plays a greater part. Being able to worship G-d grants us the potential to become as close to G-d as possible, which is good for us.

god is omnipresent that is why it is written to worship "thy" god and not another's. god is intrinsic in all place and at all times.

love is the greatest of all mysteries

 

[Fool]

The grammatical construct attached to the word for jealousy used here indicates jealousy over something that should belong to Him but is given elsewhere. In this case, worship. In other words, G-d isn't jealous of other gods, G-d is jealous for the worship that belongs to Him.

him isn't separate, if god is omnipresent. if then there is nothing apart from God how then can anything be worshiped apart from him?

where would you have his presence to rest? will you assign God a seat? a place setting? to which of the four winds should a man worship? should he worship God as the host of heaven? or maybe God as the prince of earth?

be still and know I AM god.

i will be exalted among all the nations and i will be exalted in all non-israelites.

 

[Tumah]

him isn't separate, if god is omnipresent. if then there is nothing apart from God how then can anything be worshiped apart from him?

where would you have his presence to rest? will you assign God a seat? a place setting? to which of the four winds should a man worship? should he worship God as the host of heaven? or maybe God as the prince of earth?

be still and know I AM god.

i will be exalted among all the nations and i will be exalted in all non-israelites.

Intent.

 

[Fool]

Intent.

God is not a respecter of persons. Not even an israelite, jew, palestinian, buddhist, et al......................

God makes the sunshine and rain to fall on everyone, everywhere.

 

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

Why would such an entity even need them?

You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

if there is no other God besides it, how can it be jealous of what doesn't exist?

Either there are other gods, or else, it's jealous of nothing. seems rather irrational; especially for an omniscient god, don't you think?

Try and substitute the word 'God' for something like 'Truth'.
Its for our own benefit that we accept Truth and reject falsehood.
In this sense the Living Truth is certainly jealous of falsehood.
It makes perfect sense to be jealous of the success of those who benefit from lies.

Its not for the benefit of Truth that we follow Truth,
its for the benefit of US that we worship the Truth.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

Why would such an entity even need them?

There is no such thing as an omnipresent god nor is their one that is all perfect or can claim to be the only god. The truth is that there are five gods, the dragons who created this world with all of their elements. The one responsible for life is the one that brought in the spark of life and just a bit of chaos to make the speck evolve into new life forms. One of the life forms that was not made by dragon god was the human. It was a mocking of our swine that we enjoyed from time to time when the population allowed it. These species have been come to be referred to as "human" although I would like to agree, the name is a bit harsh towards the creatures because of what it translates to in our tongue. Like a lot of the pest creatures the "humans" were invasive. Sure you say stuff about creatures being overpopulated or there being an invasive species but has any of the billions of fur lacking beast looked in the mirror?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Some are paying to lick women's *** and some do it for enjoyment even though it's actually disgusting..

But do you understand the point?

There's something called the unseen world, not knowing doesn't mean not existing,
one day we were using large vacuum tubes for the electronic circuits, today we're
using tiny transistors instead, and that doesn't mean it'll be the same for the next
100 years to come.

So God still needs a "Book of Life"? He's omniscient but can't remember ... oh, wait, this is the same deity who can't remember how to tell Hebrews from Egyptians (they all look alike?) without smearing some blood on a door. Never mind.

Worship is what broken-minded slaves do for their masters. The very attitude of worship: down on one's knees, hands out ready for the chains to be applied.

I think there's a difference between worship and butt-kissing. Many people prefer the latter. To me, worship is about a deep relationship, like a best friend who won't let you drive drunk. Too many people would suck up to God and let Him drive drunk because they think it'll make Him like them better, but the only moral solution is to kick God out of the car.

Yes, we aren't monkeys.

Exactly. Monkeys have tails (although some humans can if the tailbone doesn't fuse right during fetal development, but, still ...). We are apes, tail-less (for the majority) primates.

Have you read Song of Songs?

Solomon's bed adventures hold little interest for me.

Yes but God shouldn't treat us as if we're monkeys, we may kill some goats to eat
and we're still a lovely creatures.

Huh?

Its a metaphor of the relationship between G-d and Israel.

Exactly, in the same way this is just Eric Cartman's way of making a metaphor...

 

[FearGod]

But do you understand the point?

Yes i understand your point, but God doesn't ask us to lick anything, he asked us to be good
and to thank him for bringing us to life.

So God still needs a "Book of Life"? He's omniscient but can't remember ... oh, wait, this is the same deity who can't remember how to tell Hebrews from Egyptians (they all look alike?) without smearing some blood on a door. Never mind.

Yes of course there's recording, no magic, the same way as God created our brains to memorize and realize.

Exactly. Monkeys have tails (although some humans can if the tailbone doesn't fuse right during fetal development, but, still ...). We are apes, tail-less (for the majority) primates.

We're arrogant animals.

Huh?

You have to see as to believe and then you become a wise, you don't believe that God exists, but
if you know that he exists and he asked you to worship him for having an eternal wonderful and
amazing life(knowing that God isn't a human being), will you still refuse?

 

[omega2xx]

Agreed. Which is another reason why there can be no love, here.

Faith-- belief in things for which there is no evidence-- is insanity.

There is evidence, you just don't accept it.

Insanity is also not believing when you have no evidence to support what you accept by faith alone.

 

[omega2xx]

No, only man-made gods....unless you cand provide the nnecessary evidence to support your claim that one of them is

I can't prove one of them is any more than you can prove one of them ain't. We both accept what we believe by faith alone. IMO. what you believe takes more faith than to believe what I believe.

I am not making a claim....I was asking you to justify your claim.

Indirectly you are making a claim---there is no God.

 

[pearl]

Worship is not for God's benefit as he has need of nothing, it is for our benefit.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I think there's a difference between worship and butt-kissing. Many people prefer the latter. To me, worship is about a deep relationship, like a best friend who won't let you drive drunk. Too many people would suck up to God and let Him drive drunk because they think it'll make Him like them better, but the only moral solution is to kick God out of the car.

Fair enough.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

There is evidence, you just don't accept it.

"Evidence" I think you need to re-evaluate the meaning of the word. It does not mean what you think it means.

Insanity is also not believing when you have no evidence to support what you accept by faith alone.

Agreed-- which is why I remove ALL faith from thinking processes. ALL faith. Not just what YOU think it means, either...