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"Woman arrested after admitting having sex with family dog since 13"

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
What the hell does consent matter when it comes to sex with animals?
Why does consent matter for humans? Having acknowledged a different principles of consent between animals and humans, which do we apply with one human and one animal?

When a male animal tries to mount a female who's not in the mood, she attacks him and throws him off of her. That's how they get the message across that they don't want to be bothered. But if he's sufficiently bigger than her, he'll just rape her.
So if a human is bigger and stronger than an animal, it's OK for that human to rape the animal against its will?

Besides, it's a bit stupid that we worry about things like consent when you want to bang your dog but don't have an issue eating animals, with rodeos, bullfights, hunting, factory farming, animal testing, etc.
Don't we? I'm aware of lots of issues with those things. You seem to be suggesting that there should be no problem with any of them, indeed any abuse of animals at all. I'm not willing to pretend there is any such easy answer to these questions.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
No, I don't think that's why dogs attack humans. If that were the case, wouldn't the dog be attacking any human that won't give it food, or play with it (with a ball, you sick people!! :p j/k), or take it for walkies?
A sexual response is far more powerful & aggressive than play-time & walkies.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
What the hell does consent matter when it comes to sex with animals? They don't have a concept of consent. When a male animal tries to mount a female who's not in the mood, she attacks him and throws him off of her. That's how they get the message across that they don't want to be bothered. But if he's sufficiently bigger than her, he'll just rape her. Besides, it's a bit stupid that we worry about things like consent when you want to bang your dog but don't have an issue eating animals, with rodeos, bullfights, hunting, factory farming, animal testing, etc. It's quite ridiculous. Since when we do ask for their consent to do those things? I think non-forced sex would be the least of an animal's worries when it comes to dealing with humans. People need to stop projecting our sexual worries onto animals. Things are much more simple when it comes to sexuality outside of the realm of humans.

Also, a prepubescent child is not a good comparison to an adult animal. Animals give very noticeable mating signals when they're willing to have sex. It's different if you're comparing the child to a baby animal.
Correct, plus the fact that a lot of bestiality occurs between very cooperative animals, such as dogs and horses, and women. Looking into the subject I came across a bestiality web site that hosts videos of women sexually engaged with willing animals. Not a pretty sight, but there you are.
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If a dog doesn't want to have sex, they'll attack you. Same with a horse. Non-human animals are much more straight-forward then humans are. There's not much vagueness to their reactions. :D It's really just a matter of knowing basic animal behavior.

Looks like sex isn't on their minds.
Good....that's not a movie I'd want to see.
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Why does consent matter for humans? Having acknowledged a different principles of consent between animals and humans, which do we apply with one human and one animal?

So if a human is bigger and stronger than an animal, it's OK for that human to rape the animal against its will?

Don't we? I'm aware of lots of issues with those things. You seem to be suggesting that there should be no problem with any of them, indeed any abuse of animals at all. I'm not willing to pretend there is any such easy answer to these questions.

No, I'm not saying that it's okay to rape animals. Just pointing out some obvious things. Sex with non-human animals isn't necessarily rape.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
You actually keyed in on the problem

If human has sex with a dog and the dog likes it, the dog does not have a concept and may seek other humans to have sex with and on refute may get angry and attack the human.

If its a child it could be really bad.

This is the same for all animals they may mistake another human for the one that has sex with them and may hurt that other human because of it.

So you need then to confine them from other humans and this is the penalty they must endure and why it is a crime.

I've never heard of one case of that happening. In fact, it doesn't make a bit of sense because then you'd have to keep all dogs confined from each other!
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I've never heard of one case of that happening. In fact, it doesn't make a bit of sense because then you'd have to keep all dogs confined from each other!

I doubt you would hear a case Like that because people would assume the dog attacked the child because of other reasons. You can not ask a Dog why he attacked the child or who he sleep with.

Humans smell, look and feel different then dogs. Dogs that have sex with dogs would seek their kind and not engage with humans. Dogs that have sex with humans may seek other humans for sex.
 
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